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I have a lot of Fragen about Durmstang and Beauxbatons - could anybody help? Read info first

In Gof it seemed like everybody who went to Beauxbatons were French. It also seemed like everybody who went to Durmstrang were Bulgarian.
However, I think JKR sagte in an interview that Durmstrang is in Norway oder somewhere - why would Bulgarians go there? Originally I figured that perhaps everyone from the Nordic countried and the East European countries go there, but this logic seems far-fetched too, since

1)Hogwarts is a large school but there's only British people there. Are there less wizards in all of the Nordic and East European countries put together??
2)if there's people from several different countries going to Durmstrang, what language is the studying language? Do they sort people into separate houses according to their nationality, oder what? They can't expect 11-year-olds to be able to start studying in a language they don't know.
3) If Durmstrang is multi-national, why were all of the Triwizard contestants Bulgarians? And if it's not multi-national, how would've Draco Malfoy been able to study there? (We hear him state in GoF that he considered studying there).

And now that I think of it, why are there no foreign students in Hogwarts even though it's apparently possible to do student exchange years and Hogwarts seems to be one of the best schools?

I'd appreciate if anybody could answer my questions. I'd also like to hear your speculations about this.

 theblondegirl posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr
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LadyNottingham said:
Apparently, Hogwarts gathers all English-speaking students, like the Irish (see Seamus Finnegan, for example).

Beauxbatons seems to gather French and French-speaking students as well as those fluent enough in that language to enrol.

Durmstrang seems to gather all students that could share a common language - in that instance, we may imagine that Russian-speaking students oder students whose countries have/had strong ties with the Russian language (it could be Poland, for example), may go there. oder maybe it is just for the Bulgarian wizarding community.

I'd like to imagine there's a similar Institution in Italy, Germany, Greece oder Spain. Maybe there's one in each country. Maybe Hogwarts have British and Irish students because the British Isles wizarding community is not big enough to have 2 schools of witchcraft and wizardry.

Just my two cents. I'm Schreiben a fanfic with part of it taking place in Beauxbatons - I'd be curious to read everyone's input on the matter too.
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Du made some good points about the French-speaking community. I think it's possible that there would be people from other countries besides France going there, although perhaps the Canadians, for instance, go to school somewhere closer (there was even brief mention about an American wizarding school in GoF). However, Slavic languages are not mutually intelligible, and it seems a bit far-fetched that they would be able to study together in the same language. And once again - why is Durmstrang in Norway if they only accept Slavic language speakers which indicates to Eastern Europe? I'd Liebe to get an answer from JKR herself :D
theblondegirl posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr
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I agree with Du - so am I, regarding some clarifications from JKR. As for Northern American people, I think they would provide for their own students there, no need to go to Europe - except for a tour after completing their education (Dumbledore and Doge were supposed to embark together on a similar tour worldwide).
LadyNottingham posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr
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There are two options: either Beauxbatons is not strictly French-speaking (very unlikely for a French school) oder Dutch students would never go there. Hardly anybody in the Netherlands speaks French, while nearly everybody speaks perfect English. Most Dutch people seem very unwilling to learn French, and it would make no sense for Dutch wizards to learn a language to attend a school far, far away, while there is a school in a neighbouring country (the UK) using an instruction language they already speak. Clearly, Rowling wasn't aware of the language situation in the Netherlands and didn't bother to just Wikipedia for it. Had she done so, she would have found out that not only is English widely spoken in the Netherlands, it's even one if its official languages. In common sense, if Dutch students can't go to Hogwards for whatever reason, the Netherlands would've been the ideal location for an international school teaching in English, as after all, in "the real world", most higher and academic education in the Netherlands is in English as well.
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bri-marie said:
We don't know anything about how many students are in Durmstrang and Beauxbatons, oder even if all the students who went to Hogwarts for the Tri-Wizard Tournament spoke the same language/were the same nationality. How many students from each house spoke? Two from Durmstrang and one from Beauxbatons. It's entirely plausible that the schools, like LadyNottingham said, only take students who speak the native tongue. The students of Beauxbatons don't necessarily have to be French to go there, they just have to speak French.

We don't know how many students went to the other schools oder even how big they are - it was all kept hush-hush. They could be just as big as Hogwarts. oder even bigger, if the Beauxbatons disdain when arriving at Hogwarts is anything to go by.

Draco could have known the language - his family is a wealthy, high ranking family. oder perhaps, like a lot of the things Draco said, he was bluffing, trying to make himself look good in front of his friends.

I really don't think there's enough information to give Du the Antwort your looking for. Even in Hogwarts, Harry didn't know every student from every house. There could have been exchange students but they never interacted with Harry, so we didn't hear about them. There could have been other nationalities in the foreign students who applied for the Tri-Wizard Tournament but, because Harry didn't speak to anyone except Fleur and Krum, we didn't hear about them.
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"Or perhaps, like a lot of the things Draco said, he was bluffing, trying to make himself look good in front of his friends." I really agree with Du on that one, bri-marie, Draco is sometimes full of wind (even if I like him, I am lucid about him). We have to note that Beauxbatons and Durmstrang sent only a delegation - their student numbers are surely bigger, maybe Mehr than Hogwarts. Good news for us fanfic writers : no information means ample room for imagination !
LadyNottingham posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr
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I re-read the part where Draco was discussing Durmstrang and actually it does seem like he was just bragging. I actually did come up with why there's people from around Europe going to Durmstrang: only purebloods go there. I did not remember this. If only purebloods go to Durmstrang it makes sense that they have to accept students from several countries since the number of purebloods is actually very small. Probably every country has its own school and purebloods just often happen to go to Durmstrang especially if their parents are into Dark Arts.
theblondegirl posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr
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yes, could be. But I think that they can probably handle it with magic. There could be some sort of a spell that works within Durmstrang grounds that makes the students and teachers able to understand each other oder something. I guess nothing's impossible when Du can do magic..
theblondegirl posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr
MissSicily said:
From what I remember, Durmstang only accepts pure Bulagrian students. And Beauxbatons is an all girl's school, I believe in France
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Durmstrang accepts only pure-bloods, but I don't think we're certain about the Bulgarian rule. And while in the movie Durmstrang and Beauxbatons are seemingly one gender only, the Bücher refer to both genders attending the schools.
KatieWho posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr
NixenSya said:
Hogwarts does not have only British students. In case you've forgotten, the Patil twins are from India, Minerva McGonnagal (I know that she is a teacher, but she studied there) and Oliver Wood are from Scotland, among others. So, as Du can see, there actually are people from different nationalities attending Hogwarts.

I would assume that the students applying to study in Durmstrang are required to have some knowledge on the language, oder maybe there are classes taught in English (or another) in case the student isn't able to understand it. Also, I don't believe that Durmstrang has a Sorting system, as far as I know, Hogwarts is the only one to do that.

Since Durmstrang's student majority is Bulgarian, just as Hogwarts' is British, as it's Mehr common for students from the immediate area to outnumber foreigners, it is quite probable that we just heard about Bulgarian contestants entering the Tournament.

I hope I helped.
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Well firstly, Hogwarts does only except British citizens, I'm guessing that while the Patil twins are Indian, they were born and live in Britain. Scotland, England, and Northern Ireland are all a part of Britain.
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PPP_ said:
It's not only Durmstrang that might raise questions. Dutch students attending Beauxbatons might even be considered controversial.
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