The theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes: organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests." As defined by Merriam Webster's dictionary! link

Have fun!

First off, a big thumbs-up to this poll!

I chose Mulan because she proves that women can do nearly anything men can, and it's wonderful to have a movie with such a strong, intelligent protagonist.

@AudreyBrooke I agree! I love this movie and its message to young girls (and boys) about inner strength and beauty. Its feminist with completely subverting the gender roles, just showing how they are a product of society. :)
I might write my first article on feminism in the Disney princess movies eventually, if I have time!

Of the available choices, Mulan is the only one who really represents equality of the sexes; the movie champions the equality of a female to choose to do something other than the male defined roles for them: cooking, cleaning, looking pretty, popping out babies, and being passive.

Mulan also defies the Frozen Feminazis' claim that you have to "hate men" and treat them as inferior, in order to be feminist.

i mostly think her

Social equality of the sexes - Rapunzel and Eugene get pretty much equal screen time, Rapunzel is willing to sacrifice her freedom for Eugene's life, Eugene sacrifices his life for Rapunzel's freedom, they help each other throughout the course of the movie.

Mulan certainly is a superb role model, proving that she can thrive in a setting dominated by only male soldiers. However, the fact that SHE was the one who buried the Huns in an avalanche, that SHE was the one who killed Shan Yu, the fact that she basically needed no help from Shang or her soldier friends (except when her soldier friends dress up as ladies to fool the Huns) does not demonstrate gender equality. I think feminism should be all about both sexes cooperating with each other and supporting each other to get things done.

^Mulan had help. She had Chien Po, Ling, and Yao help her save Shang in the avalanche. Mulan had Mushu and Crikee as well as Chien Po, Yao, Ling, and Shang help her defeat Shan-Yu. In fact, cooperation lies at the very center of this flick. Both male and female effort is shown to a high degree in Mulan. So I beg to differ!

@Wavesurf I agree wholeheartedly about the bit with Frozen. Feminism isn't about hating, it is about equality.

@ace2000 I never thought of it that way! That is a very compelling argument and I can see where you're coming from! :)
I really like the support and cooperation between Rapunzel and Eugene as well and thought that it was great that they weren't making her a damsel in distress for him to save or vice-versa. It shows actual equality between the genders!
I especially like that Rapunzel is a "girly-girl" and isn't shamed for it to.

I just felt through the whole movie she was promoting equality.

^^^ I have to admit I haven't watched the movie in a few months, and I agree with your point although I'm standing by my choice :)

For me it's a tie among many DPs - i don't think there's a clear-cut "most feminist" DP (though there are some who are... um... less progressive than others owing to the values of the time period that created them.) I hadn't thought of Rapunzel before, but ace makes a really good case. Mulan's up there, too. And Tiana, for proving that DPs shouldn't be one-dimensional morality devices, but actual people with flaws who need to learn from their partners as much at least as they need to teach them).

That said, the word "feminazi" is extremely offensive - no matter how obnoxious radfems are, can we please not liken them to people who carried out the Holocaust? And there's no greater number of radfems among Frozen fans than among fans of, say, the renaissance DPs, who can get pretty superior about their faves, too.

^ I don't see how the word "feminazi" could be offensive when you look at why people use it. The term is used because they are describing a group of people who said "We want a revolution not reform." They were very extreme, they broke apart families, they were incredibly sexist towards men and they did everything in their power to put them down. The Nazis weren't that much different. They were racist instead of sexist and as men, killed instead of using insults and protests to destroy lives in other ways. Both were hateful groups who used what they had to attack the groups they hated.

I think Jasmine is the most feminist because as the definition says, "organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests" so I think most of the other DPs would care more about advocating on behalf of both, men and women's rights and interests whereas Jasmine would be most focused on women's rights and interests.

I feel its a tie for me too between many, Mulan being the obvious choice for this as she represents that equality. I agree with Ace for Rapunzel too, clever way of analyzing it. I also find Tiana and Jasmine to be clearly strong feminist with wanting to attain equal political, economic and social status in their societies. Although, Tiana was more driven by her personal interests, just like Merida was, they never really worked towards equality, it was just that their personal interests were such.
Can Belle and Snow be counted as well?
Belle - she refused to be treated in a degraded way, either by Gatson to become his "little wife" an refused his offer politely. She refused to be treated badly by Beast too, and in process changed him and herself too. She also refused to change her true hobbies to become more adaptable to town, she continued reading books despite being looked upon for same.

Snow- for re-establishing herself on her feet with the help of Dwarfs after being left alone in forest to die. She worked for her place and her right to live respectfully. she contributed to Dwarfs' lives positively and gained her social standing in return.

I'm open to discussion about Belle and Snow, though.

@laylastepford - if you truly can't see why it would be offensive to liken a group of people who are at worst wrongheaded in how they pursue feminism, with Nazis who carried out genocide and launched one of the deadliest wars in history, then I have nothing to say to you. I really do not care how the term is used or why; it is is ignorant, false, and I am 10000% done with people cheapening the Holocaust by using Nazis as a rhetorical prop to slime anyone they don't like. Radfems are not even remotely close to the Nazis when it comes to shitty behavior, no matter how much you hate them.

UnholyNoise: Well that is going only based off of your experience and knowledge of "feminazis", which I find to be very unfair and disrespectful to hold everyone else to your personal definition. Maybe in your eyes the worst that "feminazis" have ever done was say some misguided things but that's not what people are referring to when they say "feminazi". And obviously you do have something to say to me or you wouldn't have commented so I don't know how it makes sense for you to say that you have nothing to say to me yet you wrote an entire paragraph. Why don't you try not using such aggressive statements like that and try be more understanding and help others understand rather than just being judgmental or argumentative? Progress is made through efficient communication not passive aggressive statements like "I have nothing to say to you" while you're literally in the midst of saying quite a bit to me. I'm not trying to insult you here or have negative communication with you so why are you doing that to me? Because my opinion is different? That's called fascism and it's what the Nazis and the feminists both did/do. Please try to be open-minded by just explaining the reasons for having a difference of opinion instead of immediately getting negative. Also I have a hard time believing you that you "really do not care how the term is used or why" since you decided to initially comment on the term and respond to my comment about it. It seems to me like you care quite a bit based on your comments so why are you making statements like this? They are confusing.

The term is not ignorant or false, it's based on inconvenient similarities. Again, just because you are talking about women on the street has nothing to do with what others are talking about when using that term. The term has been made for the feminists like Gloria Steinem and Hilary Clinton who have tons of power and influence to change laws and restrict the media to attack those who don't support their view of "feminism".

Those women are very close to the Nazis if not worse since the Nazis actually didn't have a choice in following Hitler's command but the feminazis have every choice in which laws to pass and which people to attack. When people use the term "feminazi" they are talking about the women who shot Erin Pizzey's dog and forced her to move out of the country because they kept sending death threats. So maybe you have been lucky enough not to meet these feminazis or suffer the consequences of their actions but the people in America who have had their families torn apart and/or watch the people around them suffering or lose their jobs over a non-violent or harassing comment, despite freedom of speech, have every reason to feel more than justified in comparing those people to Nazis.

And I don't think it's proper of you to try and force your definition and perception of them on everyone else.

Nazi: "a person who holds and acts brutally in accordance with extreme racist or authoritarian views"
Feminazi: a person who holds and acts brutally in accordance with extreme sexism or authoritarian views.

We are talking about the people who attack all others for not supporting feminism and speaking out against anything that they don't agree with. When people speak out against feminism, they often get attacked and harassed. Even if you agree with feminism and think others who don't believe it are wrong, you still shouldn't attack and/or harass them. That's what feminazis do, just like the Nazis attacked all of those who disagreed with them. What is the difference if you have a real one and not just an insult to throw at me? The Nazis were men in postitions of power using that power to take advantage of those who didn't agree with them and the feminazis are women in postitions of power using that power to take advantage of those who didn't agree with them. So how/why is the term "feminazi" wrong, inaccurate or extreme?

The term "feminazi" refers to the women who literally destroy people's lives with their false accusations, sexist policies and completely biased media. Innocent people lose their jobs or go to jail or have to move as a result of the actions by feminazis. There are plenty of students in America getting raped and sexually assaulted by female teachers but feminazis get them less time and punishment than if a male teacher were touching students. There are women who commit crimes in America and they get less time and consequences because the feminazis attack those who would seek to punish them in a manner equal to men.

So please, how is it any more offensive to use the term "feminazi" than actually being a "feminazi"?

^ Complete, utter, hypocritical garbage.

^ Agreed. No one with any sense of reality could ever seriously equate Nazis with feminists. Or does laylastepford think feminists are murdering over 6 million people in extermination camps?

misanthrope86: How is it hypocritical? It's not garbage.

audreybrooke: I didn't say Nazis equate with all feminist, did you read what I wrote? I said the term "feminazi" is used because of the women with power in the feminist movement who share the beliefs and goals of the Nazis. If they could've put men and anti-feminist women in those camps, they would've. Their ideologies, goals and hatred was the same.

^ Just the fact that you're willing to compare the two (radical feminists or not) shows an extreme lack of understanding about what the Nazis were all about. You may think that the two are similar, but that cheapens the Holocaust and downplays the suffering of everyone who was harmed by the Nazis. It's honestly worrying that you or anyone else would think it's a reasonable comparison.

Everything you said is total garbage. It is inflammatory, alarmist, paranoid and extremely disrespectful to the memory of the people who lost their lives under Nazi rule, and their families.

Your most hypocritical moment is this:
"And I don't think it's proper of you to try and force your definition and perception of them on everyone else."
But basically your entire comment is hypocritical. You rave about so-called "feminazis" while dictating what people should think about feminists.

"...the term "feminazi" is used because of the women with power in the feminist movement who share the beliefs and goals of the Nazis. If they could've put men and anti-feminist women in those camps, they would've. Their ideologies, goals and hatred was the same."
- Absolute garbage. This is delusional, paranoid hatred you continue to spew.

"Feminazi" is an inherently offensive term that was created to discredit feminists as a whole. It is idiotic and short-sighted to treat the term as if it is an actual section of the feminist movement and not just another derogatory slur meant to belittle and downplay women and their accomplishments.
Moreover, likening a group of extremely impassioned women to the horrible racist, homophobic, intolerant and just plain horrific group of Nazis, who are responsible for the systematic deaths more than 11 million people (6 million Jews, most were children), is disgusting and offends me on a deep personal level.
Also, how insensitive can you be? There are some people on this site that are, in fact, Jewish and who find your casual comparison of the two extremely offensive and hurtful.
Lastly, I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed that this poll meant to promote a positive discussion about the role and portrayal of women in the movies from our childhood that we love has been perverted and become a topic of criticism of offensive terminology. I wanted this poll to be about empowering women, not about their disenfranchisement.
So thanks LaylaStepford. Thanks.

^ Thank you, MelStrachey. You're so right!

^^ Spot on as usual, misanthrope86.

Great comment MelStrachey.

Thanks misanthrope86! It needed to be said. I know I opened up the vein of possibilities for this kind of bullshit when I made to poll, but I didn't want the topic of feminism to be unapproachable on this site. I had the best of intentions in the creation of this poll and only takes one person to warp the meaning and conversation beyond recognition.

I don't see how calling someone a "feminazis" is offensive. After all, "feminazis" and "feminists" are two different groups. Feminists just want woman to have equal opportunities as men, and usually don't hate men as a whole. Feminazis pretty much want all women to be more superior than men, and most do hate men. As for feminazis not killing over 11 million people, times are different compare to the 1940's, and I bet they would if they could.

As for my picking Mulan, while I think all the DPs (and even some of the heroines) are feminists in some way, I feel like Mulan is more so because she did what she had to do to save her father, didn't give up even when everything was against her and in the end kept true to herself.

^ Unless radical feminists are invading countries, deporting people, engaging in rank antisemitism, and gassing people by the millions, it is an incredibly dishonest and vile comparison.

There are plenty of ways to express your dislike for something without dragging the Nazis into it and cheapening the experience of their victims by pretending a group so uniquely evil is comparable to any old movement you don't like.

Anyway, I feel really bad that this poll had to devolve into a lesson on why (group X) is not the same as the Nazis, so I'm going to leave this discussion. But as a Jew, as someone who has relatives who fled the Nazis, I had to say something.

^ Angelic_AW: Feminazis don't exist. It was a term created to slur radical feminists and their agendas. The term likens them to Nazis who did far worse things than a radical feminist could ever do. I understand the existence of women who hate men and want to subjugate them, but, using the term is a perpetuation of a negative stereo-type of feminists. Moreover, it is also a showing of the rapid "coloquial-ization" of Nazism and their terminology and is diminishing the weight and tragedy of the Holocaust.

@MelStrachey; We'll have to disagree on the "feminazis don't exist" thing, but I do see where you're coming from about Nazis being worse than feminazis. But I think that's just because of the laws today are different than the laws in the 1930/40's. I honestly believe that if feminazis would given the chance, they were do the same thing as Nazis did....but that's all guess work and can't, obviously, be taken as fact.

^ Misinformed guess-work.

The term "feminazi" was created by a buddy of, and then promoted by, Rush Limbaugh and originally used to describe the pro-choice movement. The term "feminazi" was created to describe women who wanted to have control over their own bodies.

audreybrooke: Really? Because the Nazis were all about eradicating those that they thought were bringing them down from progress. Sound familiar? They were about getting rid of people that they felt put and kept them in a depression. That's exactly what the "feminazis" are all about, eradicating those (by silencing them, harassing them and discrediting them since they cant kill) that they feel are bringing them down from their idea of "social equality". It's worrying to me that you are so close-minded that you aren't at all willing to see how some people have suffered from feminism and why they would deem a term like "feminazi" to be completely justified.

misanthrope86: How is it hypocritical? Someone said they think the term is offensive and I merely gave the reasons why people use the term and why they see it as justified. How was giving another side being hypocritical at all? Do you understand what hypocrisy means? Because I think it's pretty hypocritical that you love feminism so much yet you love a show like Scream Queens that literally makes fun of feminism in almost every episode. I also think it's hypocritical that you feel a need for "trigger warnings" and think they're a legitimate issue yet you love that show Scream Queens though it's full of almost nothing but those "triggers".

MelStrachey: "just another derogatory slur meant to belittle and downplay women and their accomplishments", is a very narrow-minded and inaccurate view. I don't belittle and downplay women's accomplishments at all, in fact I'm a person who likes to recognize women's accomplishments before feminism ever occurred and point out how feminism belittles and downplays women's accomplishments that occurred before they took over. When they lie about women not being able to work or go to school before they get involved, they are lying as there are plenty of examples of women who were ambitious enough to make it in the work place or graduate from ivy league schools before women even had the right to vote in America. So please, don't pretend like I'm trying to belittle women or like anyone is by using the term "feminazi", you're just trying to stereotype.

Please explain how comparing a group of women who are horribly sexist, heterophobic, intolerant and just plain horrific is disgusting and offensive to compare to a group of men who were ordered to carry out teh crimes of a dictator who would kill him if they did not follow his horribly racist, homophobic, intolerant and just plain horrific orders. I'm not insensitive but I'm definitely not too sensitive to admit the horrors committed by feminism. How insensitive can you be to completely overlook all of the people whose lives have been ruined by western feminism? There is one person here claiming to be a Jew and upset with my comparison and I don't have any proof that they are actually Jewish. And either way, the Jews never elected you or them as their personal speaker. I think there are a lot of Jews who would be offended that you pretend to speak for them all and prejudicially group them all in. How do you know some Jews in America haven't had their lives ruined by feminism and feel the same or use the term themselves? Do you know for a fact that not a single Jewish person feels that "feminazi" is an appropriate term? You do a lot of stereotyping and make a lot of prejudice statements.

Perhaps you should've asked a question like which princess is the most egalitarian instead of feminist if you didn't want people who are offended by feminism to say anything. Your welcome for bringing you an intellectual discussion that you didn't expect. I'm not sorry that some people are so sensitive to views against feminism that they cant handle it. It's an opinion and all I did was try to explain why some people use the term "Feminazi" but you guys can't handle that some people are hurt by feminism so you attack me and try to discredit me... Just like a feminazi would do.

^ More absolute garbage.

"you aren't at all willing to see how some people have suffered from feminism and why they would deem a term like "feminazi" to be completely justified."
- This is absolutely disgusting. You are comparing... well, nothing except your supposed hurt feelings, to the mass-slaughter of innocents.

"eradicating those (by silencing them, harassing them and discrediting them since they cant kill)"
- This is just disgusting and bizarre. Even if voices like yours were being silenced (your comments discredit themselves, so, yeah...), that is NOT akin to genocide. Your comments are disgusting and dangerous.

You force your ill-informed paranoid misunderstandings of feminism, in particular, on people here quite regularly. And yet you get grumpy because you think someone else has a different understanding of something. That is hypocrisy.

I'm glad you brought up Scream Queens. It is a feminist show. It is explicitly feminist. The creator and the cast members have stated that it is feminist. You do not understand the show if you believe it is anti-feminist.

As for the trigger warnings, that raving, for the benefit of others here, is from a totally different conversation. You can read my actual comments on trigger warnings link. You will also find more of laylastepford's disgustingly ignorant comments there too. You comment here demonstrates that you do not understand what I said, and you do not even understand what trigger warnings are.

"Please explain how comparing a group of women who are horribly sexist, heterophobic, intolerant and just plain horrific is disgusting and offensive to compare to a group of men who were ordered to carry out teh crimes of a dictator who would kill him if they did not follow his horribly racist, homophobic, intolerant and just plain horrific orders."
- You are not describing feminists of any sort.
- Please link to the sources you have for the militarised women in power who claim to be feminists who advocate for the extermination of men and anti-feminists.

"There is one person here claiming to be a Jew and upset with my comparison and I don't have any proof that they are actually Jewish."
- The depth of your abusive ignorance is disgusting. This is vile. You whined how I re-framed your history, and you have the audacity to say something this vile to someone.

"You do a lot of stereotyping and make a lot of prejudice statements."
- This is what you do constantly. You are insightless and ignorant.

"Perhaps you should've asked a question like which princess is the most egalitarian instead of feminist if you didn't want people who are offended by feminism to say anything."
- You started up a forum here in which you state that is people have objections to its content for "whatever weird feminist reason" then they are to "not insult this as you do not have to take part in it. It's a free choice. :)". Insightless? Hypocritical?

laylastepford, you have proven, yet again, that you are ignorant and abusive. You are disrespecting the victims of Nazi atrocities, women, men, children, everyone. Your continued grip on your ignorance is appalling. You are performing every anti-feminist propaganda piece in the book. This is pathetic and sad. And appallingly ignorant.

"There is one person here claiming to be a Jew and upset with my comparison and I don't have any proof that they are actually Jewish. And either way, the Jews never elected you or them as their personal speaker. I think there are a lot of Jews who would be offended that you pretend to speak for them all and prejudicially group them all in. How do you know some Jews in America haven't had their lives ruined by feminism and feel the same or use the term themselves? Do you know for a fact that not a single Jewish person feels that "feminazi" is an appropriate term? You do a lot of stereotyping and make a lot of prejudice statements."

yeah laylastepford, i totally made up being jewish just to make you look bad and score some points in a debate on fanpop, it's not like it's a part of my identity that i've been open about long before you even joined this site. oh wait.

i don't know why you are so bent on the right to use language several fellow group members have told you is offensive and violates the spirit of togetherness and peace you were gushing about in the article you put up recently, but it's nauseating to get through. if there's a way to block me on this site please do so; i'll definitely be doing the same.

misanthrope86: I stand by my statement, you aren't at all willing to see how some people have suffered from feminism and why they would deem a term like "feminazi" to be completely justified. I believe you feminists call that "victim shaming".

Did you make any point? The statement still stands: feminazis have the same goal as Nazis and do the same actions: silencing, harassing, and discrediting those who simply disagree with them (which you prove every time you respond to me) since they cant kill though they most likely would if they could. There are actual men in America who have been killed over political correctness because they didn't want to defend themselves against a woman attacking them. Either way, they'd lose their life: one by murder and one by jail for "hitting" a woman. The laws in America are very biased towards women against men but you wouldn't know anything about that since you live all the way in New Zealand, not America.

By the way, you're not even a fan of this club so why are you here? Are you that threatened by my views and points against feminism that you'll follow me to other clubs just to try and discredit me? Thank you for that, it shows how much you fear my honesty.

It's hilarious that you think Scream Queens is feminist when they make fun of feminism in almost every episode. In even in the finale, what did Jamie Lee Curtis say? "Um if feminism was about demanding equal treatment for women, and new feminism was saying that men and women are integral complements to one another, then I guess we could sum up, uh, new new feminism really in three simple words Women are better." Clearly you didn't get the joke. What was she representing? The feminazis that started feminism which is why they showed her give the very long dialogue in the premiere that mentioned "How did my life turn into this? I marched for the Equal Rights Amendment, I burned my bra in the middle of this campus, and then left school to intern for Gloria Steinem at Ms. Magazine." What have I brought up against feminism? The ERA and feminism trying to force women to accept being the same as men (The ERA pushed for women to be included in the military draft despite all tests showing most women are not equally capable in military setting as men which is why it should be open for those who want it and are capable not forced on all women), the fact that feminists tell women things that only hurt them (bra burning and not wearing a bra only causes back problems for women) and Gloria Steinem is the “Hitler” of Feminism as she believes “women need men like a fish needs a bicycle” and “when you get married you become a semi non-person” and “mother nature is a lesbian” (direct quotes from her that show her sexism and heterophobia) and it is women like her and her followers that inspire the term “feminazi”. So thank you for proving my point. The show makes fun of the failures and extremities of American Feminism.

As for the trigger warnings, the show Scream Queens has jokes in it like naming a character “predatory lez” who says things like “I don't feel comfortable with a man protecting me. It's representative of the patriarchal, post-colonial culture that encourages violence against women.” Or when she hears “There's going to be a new Kappa house and it starts with us. It's going to be a sorority about empowerment, sisterhood and respect.”, and she responds with “That sounds terrible.” She’s supposed to represent one of those types of feminazis who supports feminism because it keeps the lesbians closer and repels the straight males. So again, amazing that you can handle a show with such dark comedy against feminism yet somehow not take them as triggers for your feelings yet you can’t handle when I explain why some people are turned off by feminism. You started attacking me when I simply mentioned that statistically couples where the woman is older have a high rate of divorce, as if that were something worth attacking when I’m only trying to help women know what they’re dealing with so they don’t get manipulated and used, yet you’ve never once complained on the Scream Queens site about the fact that they made a joke about a younger guy having relations with older women and his entire fraternity called him out on it, saying “Look, Chad, we’ve talked about this as a house, and we all agree it’s super weird that you sleep with so many old people.” Yet here you are writing and proclaiming that this show is pro-feminist and you attack me because I shared a statistic and didn’t say anything half as inflammatory as this statement. Clearly that’s hypocrisy on your end.

"Please explain how comparing a group of women who are horribly sexist, heterophobic, intolerant and just plain horrific is disgusting and offensive to compare to a group of men who were ordered to carry out the crimes of a dictator who would kill him if they did not follow his horribly racist, homophobic, intolerant and just plain horrific orders." – Where did you read “militarized women… who advocate for the extermination…”? None of those words are in there. Are you actually reading what I’ve written or just reposting it to make it look that way?

You didn’t re-frame my history, you tried to discredit it. Since this other person has attacked me several times, it’s completely logical for me to say that I have no idea whether or not they are truly Jewish. I didn’t say they absolutely aren’t, I said I have no way of knowing that. That’s not ignorance, it’s truth.

How is it hypocritical to show that I proactively said I don’t support whatever weird feminist reasons not to like my forum and asking others not to insult it since it’s a free choice and they don’t have to take part in it? Perhaps no one told you but the Miss ___ Beauty Pageants were cancelled for a while as a result of complaints by femininists. The person who posted this forum was blaming me despite the fact that I was not the first user to bring up something against feminism here so I was explaining to them that feminism is going to get certain reactions since some people have been so hurt and offended by it. Where is the hypocrisy? I gave a reason for why the term “feminazi” is deemed an appropriate term by those who choose to use it and then others got offended by that because they can’t handle a debate where someone gives a simple inoffensive point of view that is explaining a side. You guys choose to be offended by the term because you love feminism so much, that’s your choice. The ultimate point is that no one is trying to offend Jews or feminists by using the term “feminazi” and you guys choose to take it more offensively than it’s meant.

I’m not disrespecting any victims of Nazis. You keep pretending the Nazis had a choice when they didn’t. Feminazis do have a choice. You are the one being abusive here simply because I don’t love feminism like you do. You’re performing every act of a feminazi, thank you for showing us all why the term exists.

UnholyNoise: Did I say you made up being Jewish? No I didn’t. I don’t know why you guys bother reposting my quotes when your responses show you clearly didn’t read them. It’s like you’re making my case for me of how emotionally you are reacting instead of logically. I said don’t have any proof, I didn’t say you made it up. Besides you didn’t make me look bad, you’re the same people arguing against me as always. Most people who have bothered to know me on this site know that I’m not a racist nor a sexist at all. I’m politically incorrect and I understand how uncomfortable that can be for you all but you should really start taking my words for what I’m actually saying instead of how you feel about them because your feelings aren’t being honest with you about where I’m coming from.

If you don’t know why I want to use the word I feel is appropriate despite some people taking offense to it, it’s because you’re not a child therefore I don’t feel the need to treat you like one unless you really want me to. There are plenty of people who find what “feminazis” do as completely offensive and atrocious so why do you feel so bent on using a term like “feminist” which supports the feminazis in power? What’s so bad about using terms like “egalitarian” or “humanist”? Are you that sexist towards women that you only want to label yourself according to fighting for women’s rights for equality instead of all people’s rights for equality? It’s a shame you didn’t like my article because I meant every word. It’s really sad that such positivity would be nauseating to you, it was for my mother as well, and I hope one day you will find happiness in your life so that you won’t be so turned off by it.

Also, it's amazing how you guys are so upset at the term "feminazi" when in fact using that term is showing respect to feminism by acknowledging the fact that not all feminists fit the description of "feminazis".

I've been reading these comments and I think the two opinions are
1. The Nazis are incomparable to the "feminazis" because they tortured and slaughtered horrific numbers of people
2. The Nazis are comparable to feminiazis because feminazis, if given the chance, would kill.

I see it as a have done, would do disagreement, and I have to say I personally agree more with number one, because I personally have more faith in the morals of people today who have had past historic events to learn from.

^ I'm pretty sure the Nazis did have a choice to support Hitler. 17 million people voted for Hitler in free democratic elections, and Hitler had their absolute loyalty. It would have been thought odd during Hitler's rule if you weren't a Nazi, because he had MILLIONS of loyal followers. Nazism was encouraged and idolized by parents - look at the Hitler youth groups. The Gestapo chose to support Hitler, too. I truly can't see why he would have to force Nazism upon the Germans if they showed such outrageous support for his beliefs early on.

"Gloria Steinem is the “Hitler” of Feminism as she believes “women need men like a fish needs a bicycle” and “when you get married you become a semi non-person” and “mother nature is a lesbian” (direct quotes from her that show her sexism and heterophobia) and it is women like her and her followers that inspire the term “feminazi”." I know those are awful statements, but in my opinion a good comparison of Nazis and feminazis cannot be made if it is not KNOWN whether feminazis would slaughter millions of people.

And when UnholyNoise was saying "i don't know why you are so bent on the right to use language several fellow group members have told you is offensive and violates the spirit of togetherness and peace you were gushing about in the article you put up recently, but it's nauseating to get through", she wasn't saying your article was nauseating, she was saying the language you are using in your comments is. Just to clarify.

All right. This was supposed to be about Feminism, NOT about the Holocaust or anything else.


Misanthrope86 is right that the term "Feminazi" is associated with Rush Limbaugh. It's an amalgam of two words: one term is synonymous with genocide, and the other term is feminism, something which ( I'm doing educated guessing here) Limbaugh hates as an entire movement.

The other possible terms aside from erm...Feminazi...that are used to describe women who "actively hate on men" are Radical Feminists and Extreme Feminists. Radical Feminists and Extreme Feminists are well-established hate groups just like any other hate group known historically ( the Klu Klux Klan, Antisemitic groups, Apartheid, people who hate Latinos, Mexicans, Asians, etc.). That's the category into which Radical Feminists/Feminazis/Extreme Feminists fall. They are a hate group.

The most radical branch of feminism probably is really, really far away now from championing any kind of equality between the sexes. This does not define the Feminism Movement as a whole, Thank God!!!! But it does acknowledge that there is a small faction of the Feminism movement with extremely negative views about males.

The term Limbaugh coined up though, has more of a mixed connotation because it shoves the planning of genocide with "someone's negative interpretation" of the Feminist movement as a whole. If you really want to get super technical here--- this "Feminazi" word is now out in the ether and is a slur of a women's hate group. That's what the term means right now.

Rush Limbaugh himself meant to slur the entirety of Feminism as a whole. I definitely consider him a piece of work. This term is not a slur of the Jewish people. Limbaugh likened Feminists to the Nazis. He's craaaazy.

Antisemitism is the definitive word for hatred of Jews. That's the one that applies "to planning" to kill Jews, and to the Holocaust.

I can't say that I'm shocked that this conversation was totally derailed. Reading the whole reply list is confusing, baffling, and is nauseating to me. The origin of a word matters, as does the audience to which the word is directed. And a word's meaning definitely changes depending on the context in which it is used. Taking words "out of context" leads to everyone being at each others' throats for very little reason!

The Lord forgive me for saying anything at all. I'm outta here...

ace2000: Those are respectfully not the 2 opinions. I wasn't just saying "The Nazis are comparable to feminiazis because feminazis, if given the chance, would kill." I was saying The Nazis are comparable to feminazis because they are both hate groups who do everything they can to destroy those who have differing opinions than themselves. The Nazis had the power to kill and the feminazis have the power to change laws with lobbyist groups and control the media to destroy careers. That being said, I also added that I believe feminazis would've saved themselves that trouble by killing if they could have as well but my main point of comparableness is the hate and intolerance.

Everyone has every right to choose to be offended by the term feminazi but that's a choice and I still don't believe it's proper to accuse others of offensive intent where they mean none just because you or others decide to personally be offended by it. That's your opinion based on your experience and knowledge of feminism to be not so bad where as me and others have had different experiences and know different sides to feminism hence the term feminazi.

Just out of curiosity, what makes you think that the Nazis had a choice to support Hitler? It's a series of events that led to Hitler gaining power, beginning with the depression that Germany faced after WW1 and the reparations put on them. None of these losing countries were able to pay the winning countries and most of them were excused. France and Germany hated each other though and since France had allied with the winning side, they refused to excuse or lower the debt of Germany though they had for other countries. Germany could not afford these reparations and France occupied the German Ruhr valley less than 5 years after WW1 had ended. The Germans were poor, weak and dying and Hitler presented himself as a strong man who would rid them of their oppressors. He was able to manipulate lots of the German people because of their state. Furthermore, Hitler controlled most if not all of the press and forced them to print things that showed they had more support than they actually did to pull in more people. Incredibly similar to what feminazis try and sometimes succeed at, Hitler used events in politics to twist and distort to fit his narrative and get intolerance laws passed. "With the Communist Party discredited and banned, the Nazis passed the Reichstag Fire Decree, which dramatically curtailed civil liberties. In March 1933, the Nazis used intimidation and manipulation to pass the Enabling Act, which allowed them to pass laws which did not need to be voted on in the Reichstag. Over the next year, the Nazis eliminated all remaining political opposition, banning the Social Democrats, and forcing the other parties to disband." (link) So not all of the people were completely supportive of Hitler from the beginning. As far as Nazi soldiers, Claus von Stauffenberg was a Christian Nazi soldier who "became appalled by the atrocities committed... Stauffenberg had decided earlier in 1942 that he must try to help overthrow Hitler. He had attempted throughout the summer of 1942 to persuade senior commanders to move against Hitler, and he had declared in September 1942 that he himself was prepared to kill Hitler. In 1943, he only agreed to join in conspiracy with the civilian side of the German Resistance, including Wilhelm Canaris, Carl Goerdeler, Julius Leber, Ulrich Hassell, Hans Oster, Henning von Tresckow, Fabian von Schlabrendorff , Peter Graf Yorck von Wartenburg, Ludwig Beck, and Erwin von Witzleben in what became known as the July Plot." (link) By the way, most of that group were either executed or committed suicide. So there were some within the Nazi party who did not agree with Hitler but didn't have a choice to be open about it if they wanted to live and some did what they could in their positions. Here's an example: "To survive the Nazis... He turned to another German soldier, Klemke, who also loved books and hated Nazis, and was an artist. The documents they created were perfect, and fooled everyone who needed to be fooled. They allowed van Perlstein to reclaim his import business and money that had been frozen. That money went to fund resistance to the Nazis, and a hideaway network." (link) This article focuses only on him but it alludes to other Germans within the Nazi regime that did not agree with what the Nazis were doing and did what they could to help out so Hitler didn't have full support.

If you think Gloria Steinem's statements were awful, that's not the half of it. That's what she said publically and no one says worse publically then they say privately (or it's super rare). She is the most proactive and successful feminazi who worked for the CIA. She was smart but very confused because her mother had mental illness and her parents divorced when she was age 11. "Around this time, Steinem's parents divorced and she ended up caring for her mother, Ruth, who suffered from mental illness... I'd already been the very small parent of a very big child—my mother. I didn't want to end up taking care of someone else," she later told People magazine." (link) Instead of recognizing that the problem was with her mother, she blamed society and her father instead. "Born in 1934 in Toledo, Ohio, she studied tap dance as a child and watched her mother give up a career as a journalist to have children. Her parents had a rocky marriage and ultimately divorced. Steinem, who attended Smith College, wonders whether devoting so much of her time and energy to the women’s movement was a way to avoid the kind of suffering her mother experienced." (link) Her mother never gave up a career for children, her mother was too mentally incapable to handle either. Additionally, she used Betty Friedan's book and similar experience with her mother, to try and enforce feminism on all women in America. She degraded all housewives with the awful statements I mentioned earlier, tried to pass things like the ERA and other laws that most women did not want or agree with and she controlled the media to attack anyone who attacked feminism or who tried to communicate the issues that men were facing since Steinem only saw men as perpetrators and never victims. That's why she's the "Hitler" of feminism and why her followers are termed "feminazis". The boys in America right now are still facing a lot of inequality issues but you never hear about that on the media unless it fits the feminist narrative because the feminazis in control of the media only want you to focus on feminism not humanism or egalitarianism. They need to keep pushing the narrative that only women suffer in America, or suffer much worse than men, in order to have a reason for feminism to still exist. That's not true anymore and hasn't been true in a very long time. Boys are losing their rights to sports in school, recess, writing stories that involve any violence at all including "defeating the bad guy" and other activities deemed to be too "masculine" and not in line enough with feminism views. This is a direct result of feminazi laws and pressure to rid these things that tend to be more of a boy's preference than girl's preference. Just talk to mothers/parents of boys in America and they will tell you about it. Some boys get hit in school by girls because the girls say "You cant hit me! I'm a girl!" and hit the boys knowing they cant hit them back so these boys get bullied and cant do anything about it and the girls hardly get punished. If the boys ever do hit back, they get suspended and the girls usually don't.

And fair enough if that's really what UnholyNoise meant. Perhaps being on the outside that was easier for you to see. She's been so willing to say something negative to me yet almost never responds to any of my positive comments, attempts for positive communication and understanding or apologies so excuse me if I assumed her comment was more of the same negativity that she has consistently shown me despite my attempts at otherwise.

“I stand by my statement, you aren't at all willing to see how some people have suffered from feminism and why they would deem a term like "feminazi" to be completely justified. I believe you feminists call that "victim shaming".”
- Any suffering you claim to have endured is not equivalent to the mass-slaughter of innocents. You're attempted use of "victim shaming" is laughable.

“feminazis have the same goal as Nazis and do the same actions: silencing, harassing, and discrediting those who simply disagree with them (which you prove every time you respond to me) since they cant kill though they most likely would if they could.”
- Incorrect, inflammatory, paranoid, deluded garbage.

“There are actual men in America who have been killed over political correctness because they didn't want to defend themselves against a woman attacking them.”
- Sources please. There are women and children killed daily by men globally. There are thousands of studies from all sorts of political and theoretical perspectives that demonstrate the extreme gendering of violence.

“The laws in America are very biased towards women against men but you wouldn't know anything about that since you live all the way in New Zealand, not America.”
- Factually incorrect. There are these things called books and journals. They contain information that can transmit knowledge. You are, once again, blindly reciting a rhetoric you have no understanding of.

“By the way, you're not even a fan of this club so why are you here? Are you that threatened by my views and points against feminism that you'll follow me to other clubs just to try and discredit me? Thank you for that, it shows how much you fear my honesty.”
- You know why I’m here? Because there are people in this spot who are scared to even say anything because of the way you treat people. You treated a friend of mine horribly in The Walking Dead spot. And then I saw you doing to other people here. I fear that someone will read your dangerous, ignorant comments and some harm will come to them. But if they see people fighting your vile behaviour people will reject your disgusting views as absolute filth. As you can see here, there are multiple people who are disturbed by your comments, in multiple places around this club.

Your inability to understand the complexities of Scream Queens feminism is hilarious but not surprising. The show is poking fun at the misunderstandings of feminism propagated by people like you. The “New New Feminism” joke is a response to people like you who attempt to divide and conquer feminism.

“Gloria Steinem is the “Hitler” of Feminism as she believes “women need men like a fish needs a bicycle” and “when you get married you become a semi non-person” and “mother nature is a lesbian” (direct quotes from her that show her sexism and heterophobia)”
- Learn the context of the quotes and understand them. These are not statements against men. These are statements against institutional biases.

“As for the trigger warnings, the show Scream Queens has jokes in it like naming a character “predatory lez” who says things like “I don't feel comfortable with a man protecting me. It's representative of the patriarchal, post-colonial culture that encourages violence against women.” Or when she hears “There's going to be a new Kappa house and it starts with us. It's going to be a sorority about empowerment, sisterhood and respect.”, and she responds with “That sounds terrible.” She’s supposed to represent one of those types of feminazis who supports feminism because it keeps the lesbians closer and repels the straight males. So again, amazing that you can handle a show with such dark comedy against feminism yet somehow not take them as triggers for your feelings yet you can’t handle when I explain why some people are turned off by feminism.”
- What on earth is this absolute nonsense? You do not understand triggers or trigger warnings. Nothing you describe there is about triggers or trigger warnings. They are turned off by the appropriation of feminism by people like you. That is the joke. The joke is on you.

“You started attacking me when I simply mentioned that statistically couples where the woman is older have a high rate of divorce, as if that were something worth attacking when I’m only trying to help women know what they’re dealing with so they don’t get manipulated and used…”
- Which is factually incorrect garbage, as I demonstrated, with research (and not Wikipedia research). I questioned you being disgusting towards my friend with factually incorrect nonsense.

“yet you’ve never once complained on the Scream Queens site about the fact that they made a joke about a younger guy having relations with older women and his entire fraternity called him out on it, saying “Look, Chad, we’ve talked about this as a house, and we all agree it’s super weird that you sleep with so many old people.””
- Did you watch the show? Or did you forget all the storylines that don’t fit with your bigoted worldview? Chad ignores his buddies because he is sexually and romantically attracted to two older women. 2 out of the 3 male leads ended up in romantic and extremely sexual relationships with other women. One of those relationships ended when the woman called it off, and the other one, as of the end of season one, is still going. The joke is on you again.

“Where did you read “militarized women… who advocate for the extermination…”? None of those words are in there. Are you actually reading what I’ve written or just reposting it to make it look that way?”
- OH I see the problem here: you have no idea what Nazi Germany was. No wonder you don’t understand how vile you are being.

“You didn’t re-frame my history, you tried to discredit it.”
- No I didn’t and my comments are there for everyone to see. I never denied or discredited what you said. Please re-read and comprehend.

You seriously do not understand how it is hypocritical to tell people to not comment if they have a feminist objection because they can choose not to participate, yet you commented on this pick with your anti-feminist views and then scream about “feminazis” silencing you…? You literally and explicitly told feminists not to comment in your forum, and then claimed you were being silenced when you were informed of how disgusting your comments were here. You have to be able to understand that. Surely. It is so clear and so simple.

“You are the one being abusive here simply because I don’t love feminism like you do. You’re performing every act of a feminazi, thank you for showing us all why the term exists.”
- Ignorant and disgusting and disrespectful. Not to me, because I know you speak nothing but nonsense. But there are people who read your comments and can feel your hatred acutely. It is horrifying.

“I don’t know why you guys bother reposting my quotes when your responses show you clearly didn’t read them.”
- We do understand them. You don’t.

“Also, it's amazing how you guys are so upset at the term "feminazi" when in fact using that term is showing respect to feminism by acknowledging the fact that not all feminists fit the description of "feminazis".”
- You have no understanding of feminism at all. And you have no understanding of the origins of the word “feminazi”, in either the history of Nazi Germany or how the actual word “feminazi” came to be. Your ignorance is showing again. Please put it back in your pants.

“The Nazis had the power to kill and the feminazis have the power to change laws with lobbyist groups and control the media to destroy careers.”
- So again, can we clarify, you think that asking for change is the same as mass-slaughter? That is literally what you genuinely believe?

“Everyone has every right to choose to be offended by the term feminazi but that's a choice and I still don't believe it's proper to accuse others of offensive intent where they mean none just because you or others decide to personally be offended by it.”
- So you think Jewish people should choose not to be offended by you trivialising the atrocities of their past that they have no control over? You think people should choose not to be offended by your dangerous hatred and bigotry? People should not question you when you spew lies and hatred about who they are as people?

“The boys in America right now are still facing a lot of inequality issues but you never hear about that on the media unless it fits the feminist narrative because the feminazis in control of the media only want you to focus on feminism not humanism or egalitarianism.”
- You’re whole Steinem is propaganda, as per usual, but this part in particular is factually incorrect yet again. Do you know how to use Google Scholar? Do you know how to read research? And evaluate it?

“She's been so willing to say something negative to me yet almost never responds to any of my positive comments, attempts for positive communication and understanding or apologies so excuse me if I assumed her comment was more of the same negativity that she has consistently shown me despite my attempts at otherwise.”
- Probably because these “positive” are as fictional as your other disgusting comments.

As a side note, wavesurf, radical feminism does not hate men. No form of feminism hates men. If someone hates men, they are a misandrist. People can be feminist AND misandrist, but feminism does not hate men.

The term “feminazi” is used to describe any feminist who does not shut up when she is told to, as evidenced by this discussion here. It is routinely used to describe women who simply want to be able to control what happens to their bodies, or have their voices heard politically, or get paid fairly for the work they do, or prevent domestic violence.

1. The Nazis are incomparable to the "feminazis" because they tortured and slaughtered horrific numbers of people
2. The Nazis are comparable to feminiazis because feminazis, if given the chance, would kill.

I see it as a have done, would do disagreement, and I have to say I personally agree more with number one, because I personally have more faith in the morals of people today who have had past historic events to learn from.
You have a lot more faith in humanity than I do.

And I still do see why feminazi is an offensive//bad word, especially since feminazi and feminist mean two very different things. Feminazi may have started as an insult, but it's definitely become true for some people.

*bangs head on desk repeatedly*

WOW! All the ignorant bullshit being thrown around is making my head hurt. Thank GOD that there are people like misanthrope86, wavsurf, UnholyNoise, Ace2000 and AudreyBrooke to off set the stupidity.

I'm sorry to anyone here who wanted to have an actual conversation about feminist ideals as they relate to the princesses and had to sift through the bile, hatred and ignorance of laylastepford instead.

Also, when did this become a discussion about Scream Queens?

Whatever! I don't care! This seems to be a fucking free-for-all now anyway so go right ahead.

Where the actual fuck do you get this garbage? Are you really so scarred by your past that you can't even look past your own hurt feelings to see the effect you have on others?

Get your fucking facts straight. Get some actual research. And get some reading comprehension skills. You clearly are in desperate need of them.

Angelic_AW

Thank you for understanding what we mean and not really lunging at our throats about it. I respect that you hold your opinion while still understanding the opposing opinion. However, I still respectfully disagree with you. :)

@MelStrachey; :) Yeah, this is very much an agree to disagree thing.

But like I said before a few days ago, all the DP (and even most of the Disney Heroines) are feminism in one way or another.

misanthrope86: I don't treat people in any inappropriate manner. If I treated people like you then there would be a reason for complaint. All you've done is insult me, you haven't said anything logical. You reject that anyone could ever be hurt by feminism which shows that you're narrow-minded and completely biased. Just because you use a ton of adjectives doesn't mean you're making a point. Your insults only serve to prove that you cannot rely on logic since your arguments are not logically based but emotionally based. Nobody asked you to come here and insult me because I'm being a bully, you just started following me after I said one thing that you didn't like that wasn't even offensive. If you want to be treated as equal to men then stop being so dainty and needing to be protected from statistics, opinions and simple labels.

MelStrachey: Your bias is uncanny. You praise the people who brought up feminazi yet reprimand me for trying to simply give a reason for why people use that word. WOW. I don't know why you're so biased against me. Our first conversation occurred with me standing up for you as a stranger, saying that it didn't matter that you were a guy and that your opinion shouldn't be discounted based on your gender as that would be sexist and how did you respond? "Ok, you asked for it" and started with the insults towards me like you have here. I'd love to know why you attack people who are simply trying to provide intellectual discussion. That's really incredible to me.

And to everyone claiming that "feminazi" is offensive to Jews, they weren't the only victims of the Nazis, you know. So you're actually disrespecting all of the other groups that the Nazis killed before they ever went after the Jews but I guess you guys just don't care about them. I stand by my original comment, the term feminazi is not meant to be offensive to any Jews or other victims of the Nazis but used to show how incredibly harming those types of feminists are especially with the destruction of the traditional family which most Americans still value and are disappointed in it's diminishing. There's plenty of material out there on the subject including first-hand accounts of feminists turned non-feminists, daughters of feminists and victims of feminists.

"I don't treat people in any inappropriate manner. If I treated people like you then there would be a reason for complaint."
- So the multiple people you have made feel uncomfortable or feel bad about themselves due to your ignorant misinformation are just making it up for funsies? People have pointed out specific things you have said that made them feel bad or uncomfortable. They supported their feelings with evidence from your own talk. You have had multiple people do this, not just me.

"All you've done is insult me, you haven't said anything logical."
- You have been repeatedly unable to refute anything I have said with any credible research or civilised discussion. I have demonstrated that your views are informed by propaganda. You have demonstrated that you are unable to comprehend even the ideas that you yourself put forward.

You yourself have said that people can choose whether or not to be offended by something. Choose not to be insulted. Choose instead to self-reflect. Ask yourself how you have found yourself in multiple ugly discussions across a range of topics and clubs in the short time you have been a member of Fanpop.

"You reject that anyone could ever be hurt by feminism which shows that you're narrow-minded and completely biased."
- I have never stated that. I said that what you describe is not harm born from feminism. You are a bigot who has only spewed forth unoriginal, vile propaganda that is based on factually incorrect information and faulty assumptions. You are the most biased person here. You are insightless.

"Your insults only serve to prove that you cannot rely on logic since your arguments are not logically based but emotionally based."
- Says the person who is again whinging about being insulted. I have demonstrated repeatedly how your arguments are factually wrong and dangerous. All our comments are there for people to see. You sitting there whinging about logic when you have literally equated feminism with Nazi Germany is funny, but very sad for you.

"Nobody asked you to come here and insult me because I'm being a bully, you just started following me after I said one thing that you didn't like that wasn't even offensive."
- Incorrect, not that you care. You have repeatedly said multiple things that multiple people are disturbed by. Nobody asked you to come here and bully them.

"If you want to be treated as equal to men then stop being so dainty and needing to be protected from statistics, opinions and simple labels."
- So you agree men and women are not treated equally! Progress! You are yet to provide any statistics that have supported anything you have claimed. Even the sources you did cite disagreed with you. I, and others here, have daintily devoured your smorgasbord of vile arguments, and I have a fast metabolism, so we know exactly what your opinions are now, don't we? *wink*

"You praise the people who brought up feminazi yet reprimand me for trying to simply give a reason for why people use that word."
- A simple wrong reason, which is the point.

"I'd love to know why you attack people who are simply trying to provide intellectual discussion."
- You are not one of these people. You reject intellectualism in favour of misinformation and lies.

"And to everyone claiming that "feminazi" is offensive to Jews, they weren't the only victims of the Nazis, you know. So you're actually disrespecting all of the other groups that the Nazis killed before they ever went after the Jews but I guess you guys just don't care about them."
- My comments were about all victims of the Nazis. My comments specific to the Jewish were in response to your attempts to discredit someone's heritage.

"how incredibly harming those types of feminists are especially with the destruction of the traditional family which most Americans still value and are disappointed in it's diminishing."
- Absolute crap. There is a butt-load of research that contradicts this nonsense. Google Scholar is your friend.

"There's plenty of material out there on the subject including first-hand accounts of feminists turned non-feminists, daughters of feminists and victims of feminists."
- And there is plenty more material to contradict this.

Many Native Americans lived in matrilineal societies where women inherited land and status, voted on tribal matters and chose leaders, and even ruled. (Including the Pamunkey, Pocahontas' tribe.) Then the Europeans showed up and ruined everything.

"Of the available choices, Mulan is the only one who really represents equality of the sexes; the movie champions the equality of a female to choose to do something other than the male defined roles for them: cooking, cleaning, looking pretty, popping out babies, and being passive.

Mulan also defies the Frozen Feminazis' claim that you have to "hate men" and treat them as inferior, in order to be feminist."

This is such a load of hypocritical bullcrap. Your definition of feminism here does not, in the slightest, match up to the one that MelStrachey posted. And yet you said (And I quote):
"The origin of a word matters, as does the audience to which the word is directed. And a word's meaning definitely changes depending on the context in which it is used. Taking words "out of context" leads to everyone being at each others' throats for very little reason!"
If the origin of a word matters to you, then start following the definition instead of following your own in order to vote for your favorite DP. Mulan not cooking or cleaning has NOTHING to do with feminism. If you want to vote for Mulan because she fights for women's rights, that's different. But saying Mulan is the most feminist because she doesn't cook or clean is insane, and people who think that not acting like a certain type of women makes you a feminist (And that being badass automatically makes you one) is part of the reason some people are indifferent nowadays to feminist altogether.
Also, your Frozen statement is again hypocritical. You are saying that fans of Frozen don't know about feminism (Which is wayyy too general of a statement and is clearly fueled by your bias) while also being incorrect about the definition of feminism. Good job.

And holy fucking shit, some people in this comment thread are hot headed and bitchy. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with laylastepford (I agree with some things, and disagree with others) but she, Unholynoise, and Angelic_AW are the only level headed people here. MelStrachey, AudreyBrooke, and Misanthrope have been bitchy, disrespectful, and throwing temper tantrums during this whole thing. Just look at MelStrachey's last comment for gods sakes! He threw a temper tantrum, stated how everyone who disagrees with him is stupid, and was just an utter douchebag.
And by the way, that's just my complete unbiased opinion based on all of your attitudes alone. I'm an outsider to this club and I don't have any strong opinions on feminism one way or another. I'm just baffled by how bitchy some people can be, and I almost want to applaud Laylastepford right now for enduring so much bullying as a bunch of assholes teamed up on her.
I can completely understand why some people don't like, or do like, feminism. Stop stuffing your opinions down peoples throats already. (And Laylastepford was completely right about Mel's biased too. THIS: MelStrachey: "Your bias is uncanny. You praise the people who brought up feminazi yet reprimand me for trying to simply give a reason for why people use that word. WOW." Is dead on correct. Not to mention that misanthrope has been personally targeting a user that has done nothing wrong and is using feminism as a cover-up for it. Just...ugh.)

misanthrope86: misanthrope definition- a person who hates or distrusts humankind. (link) Your name suits you very well. I have spoken to no one the way that you do. I do not hate people as you so proudly do that you would proclaim it in your screenname. It's no surprise to me that someone like yourself who is proud of the fact that they hate all other humans would use the language and tactics that you do. Keep linking our comments, they just prove how much you hate other people and can't handle a mature conversation without resorting to insults and accusations. It keeps proving how you've never once tried to have a healthy, neutral or positive decision with me before resorting to your aggressive and tasteless tactics. You are not open-minded nor intellectually curious, you're just full of hate and it shows. There are literally 14 year old girls on here who show more grace, class and etiquette than you have. The more you ask for people to treat you differently as a woman who is too dainty and fragile to hear opposing opinions in a mature manner, the more people are going to see and treat you accordingly. It's that simple. You reject that anyone could ever be hurt by feminism which shows that you're narrow-minded, completely biased and completely un-open to improving feminism to actually get women to unite or stand together. You don't care about helping other women at all unless they agree with you. I may say some things that people don't like but I don't insult them the way you do, I just give my point of view and my reasons for that point of view. The more you keep bullying and then complaining about it all the while proclaiming feminism, the more it shows others the bullying and hypocritical tactics of the feminism that you support and that I am pointing out as destructive to progress in society. You would make Gloria Steinem proud.

HotHeadedReply: Thank you so much for providing your objective comment.

I completely agree that "people who think that not acting like a certain type of women makes you a feminist (And that being badass automatically makes you one) is part of the reason some people are indifferent nowadays to feminist altogether."

Whether you agree or disagree with me, I thank you for pointing out that I have not tried to insult anyone, despite being insulted myself, and just trying to provide another perspective.

HotHeadedReply's account is, unsurprisingly already gone... So they either deleted their account less than 5 minute's after they commented here, or they have been banned by Fanpop. Seems like a totally legitimate ally for you...

As I said, you don't know the origin of my username, so your comments are irrelevant on the matter. If you actually bothered to ask, or research the publicly available information, you might actually have a LOL.

"Keep linking our comments, they just prove how much you hate other people and can't handle a mature conversation without resorting to insults and accusations."
- When I tried that, you flipped out. And as I said, choose not to be insulted, if it as easy as you claim.

"It keeps proving how you've never once tried to have a healthy, neutral or positive decision with me before resorting to your aggressive and tasteless tactics."
- It is literally the first thing I did with you. I have repeatedly asked you to provide sources for your information. When you couldn't, you had a tantrum. You have been rude to many people here. Many people have said this to you many times. You are the common denominator.
Asking you to source your comments is not aggressive or tasteless. Calling women who believe in equality "feminazis" is aggressive and tasteless. Multiple people have pointed that out to you here.

"You are not open-minded nor intellectually curious, you're just full of hate and it shows."
- Says the person who claims an anti-feminist position (specifically a position of hatred) and cannot and will not engage in any intellectual discussion at all, and cannot support her arguments with anything other than propaganda.

"The more you ask for people to treat you differently as a woman who is too dainty and fragile to hear opposing opinions in a mature manner, the more people are going to see and treat you accordingly."
- Did you just call me aggressive, tasteless AND dainty all in one comment? Women are so complex.
You very explicitly will not hear or understand or consider any other view point other than an anti-feminist one. I asked you for more information so that I could learn your position, and you wouldn't cooperate. So I treat you accordingly.

"You reject that anyone could ever be hurt by feminism which shows that you're narrow-minded, completely biased and completely un-open to improving feminism to actually get women to unite or stand together."
- I have never done that, and you know that. You perform these melodramatic woe-is-me monologues about you are so hard done by, without a care in the world for how you have harmed others.

"You don't care about helping other women at all unless they agree with you."
- As I have said, you don't have to agree. You have to understand what you are disagreeing with. You repeatedly demonstrate that you do not understand feminism, or your own arguments against feminism.

"I may say some things that people don't like but I don't insult them the way you do, I just give my point of view and my reasons for that point of view."
- You do insult them. They tell you that they are insulted.
And we give our reasons as to how your reasons are ill-informed. Like I said, think what you like, but understand what you reject before you reject it.

"The more you keep bullying and then complaining about it all the while proclaiming feminism, the more it shows others the bullying and hypocritical tactics of the feminism that you support and that I am pointing out as destructive to progress in society."
- And yet I have never once equated your ill-informed, dangerous propaganda with genocide. Nor have I singled out particular groups, other than the broad 'anti-feminist' movement, to stereotype and discredit as you have.

"You would make Gloria Steinem proud."
- Steinem would probably hate me. You need to update yourself. Or actually read anything I have said to you.