I'm adressing the rabid Twilight Fans if they would listen. I'm also adressing the common Fans of both sides of this debate.

There are some things one may and may not do in a formal Debatte unless one wants to look like - pardon the language - a freaking donkey.

Nr 01: One may not argue against the debaters points Von attacking him oder her. This is called argumentum ad hominem and is a fallacy. For example: If I am to argue that free elections is wrong and states that the arguer is an imbecile that does not deserve the right to vote, then I have committed a severe personal attack and will be frowned...

OK, so many Harry Potter/vampire Fans (like myself) will probably agree that Edward Cullen is not a real vampire. The only similarities that Edward and other Vampire have is the liking of human blood. I suppose Meyer was trying to be original, and I don't mean to offend anyone who does like the sparklepyres.

Why Edward Cullen is a niffler

Before I state my actual reasons, I should probably tell anyone who doesn't know what a niffler actually is. For this I have my trusty Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them book:

NIFFLER
M.O.M. Classification: XXX [Which means a competent wizard should cope...

Here is an 5 Part Essay wriiten Von someone on livejournal that proves Edward isnt abusive.
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I have been having feelings of guilt off and on about shipping Edward and Bella. I'm sure the majority of us Twilight Fans of have heard about the accusations of Edward being an abusive boyfriend. The accusers are able to back it up with proof of certain behaviors that count as abuse that Du can read off of a red flag list. What they refuse to do though is look at the big picture. All they see is the surface and refuse to ask why. They even go to such far...

Everyone knows Rowling and Meyer's stance on fanfiction and the fact both writers have gegeben a thumbs up of sorts. However, there is something I don't think either one of them would of approve of and it involves those Reading the Books a lot of people are supposedly writing. I say supposedly Schreiben because copying from another persons work is not Schreiben unless Du are quoting under fair use. And boy... every single Lesen the Bücher I've come across is not in fair use and constitutes plagiarism. I know how to write one that doesn't constitute plagiarism, but I'll save that until the end.

One...

Dear Stephenie Meyer,

May I first tell Du that your 'Saga' is complete and utter crap. I also would like to highlight the fact that your 'books' are an insult to literature and vampires.
When Lesen them at first, I thought that they were quite good, and for a while I was a Twilight fan, but your fanbase has gotten huge, along with your head. This is one of the reasons I don't like Twilight. I've read other points on why Twilight and the rest of the 'saga' are bad, and I fully agree with the points raised. The points that I have read about have made me realise how bad Twilight and the rest...

I've read plenty of arguments stating that Bella schwan is anything but a normal teenager. But, if we skip the whole Supernatural Liebe dreieck part of the series (Which, granted, is most of it) the Frage remains: Is Bella schwan a normal teenager?

Lets take a look at the average teenager. Mehr often than not, teenagers are stubborn, make bad choices, and consider themselves the center of the universe. I'm not intending to insult anyone here, this is what I have observed. We don't do it all the time though, other times we can be selfless, make great choices, and happy. We also sometimes go through...

I’ve read many lists pointing out Twilight “Plot Holes”, but Mehr often than not, the lists aren’t very valid at all. Half of them are usually just complaints, pointing out something they don’t like about Twilight (Example:” Why would Vampire go to high school?”, oder “Why does Bella have so many friends?”). The rest are just factually incorrect, oder can be logically theorized. These are usually followed Von “Stephenie Meyer obviously ditched history class”, oder “Hasn’t Stephenie ever heard of logic?”, oder my personal favorite, “I would know, I had a lesson about it...

Before Du start reading, I'd like to say this is my personal opinion. Maybe I'm wrong. If I am, I'd appreciate Du don't get mad because I don't like fighting. It wasn't meant to be rude, mean oder hurtfull to anybody.

For me Twilight was too easy to read. I could predict what would happen and the plot was too easy. The thing is, the plot isn't bad. Vampire exist, that's cool. Du know one, yes, very cool. But the way Stephenie Meyer introduces it, how she developed her characters, how she modeled the vampire species, that is where Twilight gets people annoyed. It represent the iceburg that...

Voldemort is notorious for his fear of death. To avoid death, he is willing to kill innocent people and destroy his very soul.

Now, everyone with any sense knows that Bella is a Mary Sue, and Stephenie Meyer desperately wants to be Bella. I even personally know quite a few Twilight Fans who realize and accept this. And what does Bella want? She wants to become a vampire.

Here is some commonly known knowledge about Vampire (according to Meyer):

-Kill innocents for survival
-Practically immortal
-Possibly lose their souls, though this is not known for sure

We see Voldemort killing innocents for survival....

These are the weirdest, saddest Twilight defenses on the planet. *NOTE: I have nothing against reasonable Twilight fans, but ones like this? *facepalm*

Tiwlite deost scuk jew bichezz!!!!!1!!” twilite iz da beste buck i hav evar red in mi lief!!!! so wat if inot have red so maney bks in my lief!! i actualey hav ay lieff and bukks hapen to b four peeple wizout eny frends!!!!!!!1111 sou dant juzt PRUVVEZ hou gud twilit iz!!!!!!!!! adn anuzer ding i am sexteen not twelve adn i reeli LUVE TWAILITE wish usst PRUVVEZ it iz four mature, enteliggent peepolnot like hary poter dat is juzt four lusers...

Lesson 1: PROPS!!! Lots and lots of props!




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twilight and harry potter do not mix im sorry people but know twilightbis the classic romance between a human/bella and vampire/Edward
and harry potter is a action fighting movie so im am truly sorry i am a twilight crazzy if Du want to know Mehr go onto my page and right good/bad comments
as usly i finish my Artikel with a song so here it gose
toxic song britny spears

Baby, can't Du see
I'm calling
A guy like Du should wear a warning
It's dangerous
I'm falling

There's no escape
I can't wait
I need a hit
Baby, give me it
You're dangerous
I'm loving it

Too high
Can't come down
Losin' my head...

Logical reasons...
why Harry Potter v.s Twilight

*WARNING SPOILERS*

Hi! I'm Cinnominbubble and I have noticed the war between fandoms have been going on for a while with no clear outcome. There is a reason to this-We are stubborn. Twihards want to stick up for Stephanie Meyer, whilst Potterheads want to do the same for J. K. Rowling. But, I have noticed something. Many of our reasonings aren't exactly logical. I mean, not to be offensive, some of our strongest points are downright idiotic!(from both sides) I'd like to come up with some smarter points to help people see our side of the story, whatever...

1. A decent plot.
2. A plot.
3. Character death.
4. Quidditch.
5. Voldemort.
6. Bellatrix Lestrange.
7. Severus Snape (The best of all)
8. Hogwarts.
9. Magic.
10. A wand.
11. An all-ages audience.
12. A writer who doesn't make her characters bitches.
13. Vampire that don't sparkle.
14. Harry Potter.
15. Hermione Granger.
16. Ron Weasley.
17. The *very awesome* Weasleys.
18. Giants.
19. Broomsticks.
20. Triwizard Tournaments.
21. A lightning-shaped scar on the forehead of the main protagonist.
22. Draco Malfoy.
23. Real werewolves.
24. The Marauders.
25. The Order of the Phoenix.
26. Dumbledore's Army.
27. Death Eaters....

My Frage is Is anyone alse tired of this "HP vs Twilight" things??
Because it is driving me crazy..

First of all I need to say I Liebe THEM BOTH so much!! I think HP was extremely original I grew up with it and I looove it.. and Twilight is so romantic, I mean, could they be Mehr crazy about each other?? (NOPE!!), and I looove it too!! (L) =]

However one thing is true:
Most twilight Fans ARE crazy, annoying, funny, scary, etc.. being one I talked to many and some were really funny (they actually believed they were going to marry Edward) and others really scared me (because I loved HP too they...

This is just a draft. We've been working on it, but we want to see how Du guys react to it so far. We both plan to explain each point further, but we want to know what else Du guys want to see addressed.




Youknowit101/Cassie-1-2-3 collaboration.

I asked a Frage a bit Vor asking what bothers Du about Bella’s pregnancy. We got some very interesting answers, thank you. We are now here to respond to the points made.
(I’m going to be using words like penis and orgasm, so if Du haven’t had a certain talk with your parents yet, Du probably shouldn’t read this)

First, we’ll address te...

Twihards oder Rabid Fans (thats obsessive Twilight fans, all of you): Don't read this. I don't want to get mauled oder drowned.
I apologize for any spelling oder grammar errors.
Don't get me wrong- I like Twilight just fine. However, many parts of it really annoyed me. Here are my reasons why I liked Harry Potter better.

1. Characters.
Lets compare:
Lead female role in HP: Hermione Granger. Flaws: a bit nerdy, Know-it-all, and Bossy. Good traits: Stood up for herself (as well as think for herself), worked against racism (for house-elves), was loyal to Harry at all times, and didn't try to kill herself...

Hey, I was originally going to put this in the Kommentare section of a 'picks' question, but I realized it was too long so I put it here.

This is what I think, about the crap they call the 'Twilight Saga'. A book based on an author's wet dreams and hopes.

Twilight- Who? WHO FALLS IN Liebe AFTER SEEING A PERSON THREE TIMES IN THEIR ENTIRE LIFE?! Plus, I'll summarize the entire book.

It's like-
Bella: Oh Edward, Du hate me.
Edward: No I Liebe you
Bella: Du Liebe me?
Edward: Stay away from me.
Bella: Stay away from you?
Edward: Just stay with me. I mean, it was obvious I wanted Du from the start, wasn't...

A lot of debates is going on about who would win, if Harry and Edward got in a fight oder duel.
This is understandable since it summerize the whole wizards vs. Vampire thing.
I will try to be objective and analize their chances fair.

1.Physical abilitys
Harry is, besides his magic, a human. He trains Quidditch and he is not exactly out of form, but he just doesn`t have what it takes to break trees in half and stop rushing cars. He can die because of wounds.
Edward on the other hand, is incredebly strong and fast (and cold and never eats and we all know what he is - a vampire). He CAN break trees...

Twilight oder Harry Potter? That's all I see here. And here are some "reasons" each of us came up with.
NOTE: I'm a HP fan, nothing against Twilight though.

Twilight
•Edward is hot.
ME: Umm...not really to me...wait..books oder movies?
•JK Rowling failed at love.
ME: Lily Evans gave her life for Harry, and lots more.
•It has a Liebe triangle.
ME: Well...HP has Liebe triangles too. Hermione, Lavender, Ron. Harry, Ginny, Cho. Cho, Harry, Cedric. Severus, Lily, James. And LOADS more.
•Harry Potter is only about a fairy tale. It has a boy who raises a stick in the air and never dies.
ME: Well...vampires...