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posted by ilovereading
Like a lot of other Antis, I was at first a Twilight fan.

I got into Lesen when I was 8 years old. First real book I have read was Harry Potter. Since than, I have read loads of fiction - romance, science fiction, fantasy, historical novels...
I liked some of them and disleked others. With years, I learnd to tell why and found my Favoriten - Fantasy novels.

My friend heard of upcoming Twilight movie, so she decided to read it. She recomended the book to me, so I said: "Heck, why not, it sounds interesing." I borrowed it from school bibliothek and read it. I admit, I thought it was great, and I...
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posted by bakura1234
It has a PLOT! It has Subplots.It has several characters with depth.JK is not afraid to sacrifice the good guys. The characters aren't one dementional. JK researches her material, has good use of Latin and history within her books. Spells are named after Latin words and do what the Latin words do. Names of soem characters give hints as to what that character is such as Sirius which means Dog star, sterne for Mehr Albus which means White (pure wizard). Du can relate Harry Potter to WWII because of similarities Du could learn some history from the books.
Harry Potter teaches a good deal about prejudice...
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posted by Kersian
Okay this is Mehr of an opinion, since my view of the activity is based off opinion.

Now whenever someone posts something on the internet and someone else responds negatively to it, they respond in the same way to that person. In a very negative tone. This is in fact what I see at times in forums.

First Twilight and Harry Potter fans, if Du post anything on the internet, whether they are opinions oder facts, Du have responsibilities with it. Du are exposing yourself to others in the internet. Du are responsible for the positive oder negative replies. So don't blame others for your actions....
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posted by potteralltheway
I have actually read both series and liked Twilight okay, but Harry Potter rules for me!

First, the so often brought up topic... love, oder lack thereof. Harry Potter consists of all sorts of love: family, parental, romantic, friend. Twilight consists of pure lust. Now for the evidence! Mrs. Molly Weasley killed Bellatrix Lestrange because Bellatrix nearly killed Ginny, her only daughter. The Weasleys all look out for each other, and even Percy apologized in the seventh book. They joined together in dark times, happy ones, sad ones, and when Fred died. Du might say the Cullens Zeigen family love....
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Over-all, the movie wasn't that bad. It stuck very, very close to the book (like, literally taking lines straight), with the exception of one oder two parts, so Breaking Dawn Fans will absolutely Liebe it. But, even if you're like me and hated Breaking Dawn, the movie was still pretty enjoyable. Definitely not unbearable. The effects were great, the Musik was awesome, and Kristen kicked major ass. There was humor (because Charlie was there), there was drama, and there was even an awesome fight scene. (One-and-a-half, really.)

Spoiler-y Opinions
Liked:
-The one-liners.
    Charlie's...
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I'm going to start doing Artikel like this because I think it's fun and I just wanna see who thinks one character is better than the other.

Before Du guys start, let me tell Du my opinion. I think that Bellatrix is the better villan because she's mean, crazy and cruel but also happens to have good fighting skills, even though I hate her for hurting Hermione. She's also not afraid [potterheads correct me if i'm wrong] to kill others. She pretty much has the ultimate personality and guts that Villaness's have.

Those are my opinions. Now... feel free to add yours!! Enjoy:)
PREFACE - THE JEALOUS-FALLACY IN ITS MANY FORMS

Alright, I have already dissected one very common fallacy invoked Von some Twilight Fans and a few Harry Potter Fans as well, the Edward-fallacy. I shall not discuss that one but instead I will be moving on and examine another common fallacy invoked Von some fans, using what I believe is the two most common forms of it.

"YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS, THEREFORE YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID"

Firstly, let us examine the logical reasoning behind "You are just jealous, therefore your argument is invalid".
It is invoked when any Fan post an argument and employes this...
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1. It has better writing.
2. It's plotline is better.
3. I'd rather read a book about a teenage boy going to a wizardry school and fighting a dark sorceror than one about a ditzy girl who's way too obsessed with her sparkly boyfriend.
4. The characters are Mehr relateable.
5. J.K. Rowling is not afraid to kill off plenty of good guys.
6. Most of the characters' educations actually matter to them.
7. It doesn't have thousands of rabid fangirls.
8. The characters are Mehr three-dimensional.
9. It stays true to mythology.
10. It has Mehr types of Liebe in it, not just romantic and sexual Liebe (or should...
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harry potter is now logged in
harry ;anyone here i bored and can't do Magie
Ginny;y w has now logged in
ginny; yea am here this is why better then are old owl LOL
harry; huh? LOL wants that tell ron say hi d hi
ron w has lodged in
ron; hi harry was up and ginny get out of this chat room
ginny; u can't make me
harry; ron ginny be nice and can any one till me what LOL and waz means
ginny; LOL means laughter out loud and wazwantt is up
ron ;lol means laughh out loud and waz want is up
ginny; Du took the words right out of my mouth
edwardcullen has now logged in
edwardcullen; I WEAR GIRLS CLOTHS AND AM A SPIKING VAMPIRE WHO HAPPENS TO BE IN Liebe WITH A HUMAN GIRL
harry; freak
ron; yea
ginny; get off hear your in the wrong chat room go to the one with the six Jahr olds
edwardcullen; ok
edwardcullen has logged out
ginny has logge out
harry has logged out
ron has logged out
first off i would like to say that i used to like t but everyone ruined it.

hp is so much better because its about friendship and standing up for your self it shows fear and judement and kind and tenderness which in twilight its just about useing people to benifit Du and doin iti mean in twilight, it takes edward and bella what a week to fall in Liebe it takes ron and herimone over 7 years and harry starts to relize he loves ginny after 5 years! and not to mention hp is fun for everyone some people might be afraid of the fact of a man eating vampire watching them not knowing when there going to attack out of hunger. so when Du "twilight" Fans find some real evidence that twilight has any real moral to it let me know cause i really like to know wat Du think. oder just Kommentar on this Artikel PEACE, sy-sy
 Harry James Potter
Harry James Potter
This is not my opinion. It's an excerpt from an Artikel titled link. I have however come across a few people who have voiced the same thing. Just curious to know people's thought on this.


Kenny Herzog

I’ve read all of J.K. Rowling’s Harry Potter books—devoured them, really, because whatever her flaws, the lady does a terrific job at building compulsive narratives and enjoyable worlds. But the Mehr time I spend away from the series, the Mehr its problems get to me, and the biggest problem of them all is the main character himself. Harry is, to put it kindly, an absolute no one. He suffers...
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Here is an 5 Part Essay wriiten Von someone on livejournal that proves Edward isnt abusive.
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I have been having feelings of guilt off and on about shipping Edward and Bella. I'm sure the majority of us Twilight Fans of have heard about the accusations of Edward being an abusive boyfriend. The accusers are able to back it up with proof of certain behaviors that count as abuse that Du can read off of a red flag list. What they refuse to do though is look at the big picture. All they see is the surface and refuse to ask why. They even go to such far...
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***NOTE: I did not write this but found it online! No credit to me***

From link

The Twilight vs. Harry Potter Debatte : Team Potter and Team Twilight take on Frage #1

December 24, 12:44 AM
Von Michelle Kerns, Book Examiner

If Du haven't met the members of the Twilight versus Harry Potter Debatte Team, cast your eye on their qualifications here.
Now, on to the debate! If you've got your own opinions (and what self-respecting Twi-hard oder Potter head doesn't?), feel free to leave a Kommentar at the bottom of the page. However, let's remember we are civilized witches, wizards, vampires, and werewolves...
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posted by mariella721
Okay guys, I know everyone's got their own opinion and not everyone has the RIGHT opinion, but as a Twilight fan, can one of Du Potter Fans explain what Du guys see in Harry Potter? Honestly, I haven't read all the books, but I've seen all the Filme and they just don't make any sense. And another thing, the plot is bland and there's no real depth to it, like in Twilight. Harry Potter, also has no Liebe in it, which makes for a boring story. Anyways, I just wanted to know what Du crazies see in those Bücher and stuff...

Okay...
See ya :D

Mariella
xxx
1. its just all thrown together and the Filme leave out way to much.
2. it has no meaning just a girl falls in Liebe then is a vampire the end.
3. is just plain stupid.simple as that
4. theres nothing to figure out. its to predictable.
5. it dosent have enough back story which goes back to # 1
6.and stephine myer wants to keep all the good players while j.k. isnt afraid to for the sake of the book
7.why doesnt she mentention why bellas parent got seperated which geos back to #4
8. it has no plot
9. the problem is the same all the way throughout the sires as h.p. faces many problems.
10.its down right boring hmm lets read the same boring thing over and over! yea! NOT!
TEN REASONS TWILIGHT IS HORRIBLE!!!!
posted by RavenclawRocks
Before Du all come out with pitchforks and guns, I'd just like to say this is my opinion.

1, Half of the Fans only like Twilight, because they think Rob/Taylor is hot.

2, I can't argue about the plot because there isn't one.

3, Bella has no personaility.

4, Edward is just plain creepy.

5, Bella always needs a man in her life. When Edward leaves she needs Jacob. This is really stupid.


6,Bella wouldn't even look at Edward if he wasn't hot.

7, Edward wouldn't look at Bella if she didn't smell good.

8, It gives a bad message. Like kill yourself when your sparkly boyfriend is around. oder there is no point in being happy unless Du have a boyfriend. oder it's ok to ditch your Friends to datum a super hot vampire.

9,Meyer constantly repeats the same words to tell us how hot Edward is. This gets boring after two pages.

10, The actors suck.


There,ten reasons. Feel free to add on more.
posted by i-am-mariella
I’ve seen articles, like bri-marie’s, comparing Bella, Twilight’s “heroine” to the girls and female role Models of the Harry Potter Bücher like Hermione and Ginny. I agree with them whole-heartedly and I am happy to follow in the footsteps of strong women from Harry Potter – like Ginny, who is fierce and pretty bad-ass and just insgesamt a strong female, and Hermione, who is studious and smart and witty and the boys often rely on her skills and “genius.” Because let’s face it – and Ron says it himself – where would they be without Hermione?
So I wanted to make my own because...
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"This KISS between Hermione and Ron is highly anticipated, it's been building up for eight films now. And Harry Potter is not Twilight, Du know; we're not selling sex." - Emma Watson

If Du think Emma Watson is stupid for quoting this, Du are outta your mind. Du think Twilight's not selling sex? Irony. Irony how some twi-hards reason out "BECAUSE EDWARD CULLEN IS SO SEXY!!!" if asked why Twilight is better than Harry Potter.

For me, Twilight is just beliebt 'cause it has sex appeal. Wait for several years, no one will be talking about Twilight anymore.. Harry Potter won't be talked about that much but it will never be forgotten.In my case, I know Harry Potter will be a future classic.

Twilight Fans go ahead and attack me, whenever you're ready.
This Artikel isn't mine, this is just an Artikel I found on cracked.com (one of the best sites ever!). I agree with most of it, and on that note remember this is opion based, not fact. This is...*drumroll* if Du don't hate Twilight already, why Du SHOULD hate Twilight!

Click here to check out the article:
link

Enjoy, and no getting pissy (that's right I'm talking to Du Twilight Fan girls) if you're going to post, DON'T POST unless Du write something I can understand. For example, THIS is something I can't understand:
omg liek edward iz liek sooo hawt an like sexxii an liek OMG umminess an u hateur iz liek tttly stoopid an homo an--
It's hurts too much to even finish the example! Anyway, again no haters and enjoy!
Obviously, this spot is about debating Harry Potter and Twilight, and I realised I've never written an article, so I decided to put down all my reasons for Harry Potter being better than Twilight.

Firstly, the 'love' in Twilight is not love. It is over powered lust. To my memory, Edwrad and Bella never have a conversation about from who loves the other more. Edward likes Bella because she smells good, Bella likes Edward because he's 'handsome' (which can't even be proven, he's a book character, we never see him).

The Liebe in Harry Potter is shown as an amazing, all powerful thing that can sace...
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