Supernatural Article: John Winchester is a bad father?

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posted by Kanza_Jamil

John Winchester, is pretty much like Dumbledore in this fandom. His curse was that he understood too much. he was too wise, too broken and too strong.

Everyone keep saying that John was a bad father because he introduced his sons into this life. but guess what?! he didn't! he didn't introduced them to this life, they were already a part of this life. They were meant to be.

As that Cupid said, It was a big deal getting Mary and John to fall in Liebe so that Sam and Dean are born to be Lucifer and Micheal's vessels to fulfill destiny of this world, the apocalypse, God's plan.

Even though John didn't know about the apocalypse, he was smart. Hell! he was the smartest person ever! he got into this life after the age of... what? twenty five? thirty? and he was still the best hunter there was! and that means beating a huge sum of hunters born into this life. He was great at joining dots and planning hunt so swift, so neat, so perfect.

So when John dug into find the reason behind his wife suddenly burning up on the ceiling of his six Monat old son's room, he found out that his was not the only case there was. And that there was something bigger going on than he had imagined and his wife was just an offering to the way of it and his son, Sam was a part of it. and there was no way out.

John was wise enough to know he could not out run it so he stayed and learned to fight. He never knew what hunting really meant until he was way too deep in it. When the Liebe of his life burned in a strange feuer on the ceiling, he was freaked out, he had no way of knowing what had happened, he had no idea how to fight it, how to save his family. He was helpless as fuck.

He didn't want to feel that unprepared oder helpless ever again. He didn't want his sons ever having to feel that unprepared oder helpless ever in their lives. So he made sure that his sons we ready for whatever comes their way, ready to protect themselves and their loved ones, stronger than he ever was.

because he knew it will come their way and there was nothing he could do to stop it, all he could do was to make sure that they were ready for it when it does.
John never had a father to Zeigen him how it was supposed to be like. He just did the best he could.

He went to hell to be tortured Von demons with personal agenda against him for the rest of the eternity, just so Dean could leave a little longer.

Don't Du get it?! it's not just going to hell for his son. It was Mehr than that. Killing Azazel was all his life was about, his entire existence was about, not just for revenge but to make to sure that no other family has to go through what his family did, ever again. It was John's obsession. Just Sam is Dean's obsession (Sam and Dean's bromance is awesome and but it's not normal, it's Mehr than love, It is obsession).

But John gave it all up for his son, he gave up his one chance at killing Azazel right there, John didn't just went to hell for his son, he begged in front of Azazel, begged for death so his son could live. That naked defeat! It wasn't just giving up his obsession of twenty one years, it was bending his moral compass! The humiliation! When he knew Azazel was gonna kill Mehr people, destroy Mehr families but just so Dean could have another chance at life.

Yes Bobby sagte John wasn't a good father and that he, Bobby wouldn't have chosen this life for the boys, but he didn't understand that John didn't either. John didn't choose this life for his sons, he never had a choice. This was their life, their destiny, John just made sure they were ready to take it head on. And from where I see it, he did an incredible job at it.

Yes John let Dean, raise Sam but it was only because he, himself was too busy trying to figure out way to save them from their own terrible fate, maybe killing Azazel, killing the demon who started all this, would stop all this. So maybe, just maybe his sons wouldn't have to go through what he had always known, feared, they were gonna have to go through.

He couldn't save Sam and Dean from this life but he could save Adam, so he did. John wasn't a bad father oder a bad person, he was a very good person that bad things had happened to.

LowriLorenza89, girl_hunter88 and 4 others like this

Flickerflame A good defence of John, and a good explanation of some of his reasoning. I do think it was as much to protect others, and teaching his sons to defend themselves since he'd seen that standing out of it didn't necessarily protect people, as much as revenge. But I don't think he knew as much of the details of Azazel's plans/the forthcoming apocalypse as you suggest. Not when he first got into hunting, anyway. I think he learned that during season 1, when he was learning more about what Azazel was doing, or possibly not until he was possessed himself.

Kanza_Jamil John literally never did anything without a reason. Even when it seemed unreasonable. So there has to be a reason he was so over protective of Sam. Didn't want to let him go to college so kept an eye on him when he went to college. He couldn't have known everything but I think he knew enough..

Flickerflame I thought not wanting Sam to leave was just out of fear that he'd forget everything he'd learned about hunting, become rusty and end up a victim of some monster or ghost. Maybe he feared monsters would target Sam as they would see him as the weak link in the family. And in a way, he was right there. Sam didn't have any salt lines or devil's traps under the mat or anything like that. Compare how Sam was living to what we saw of Dean's life with Lisa between seasons 5 and 6.

WinterSpirit809 Thank you so much! You basically summed up my thoughts on his character! Sam and Dean were going to get into the hunting life eventually anyways, so I don't get why people say that it's John's fault? I actually think he was a good father. He wasn't perfect, of course, but what parent is?

girl_hunter88 John is misunderstood. I always liked him and all the Winchesters for that matter. Glad to see more people that don't just hate without giving it a thought

KevinHWoodward I mean. You can be well-intentioned and still be a bad parent. That happens a lot. Was John's behavior explainable? Sure. He's a very human character, and it speaks to the great writing on this show that his actions are justifiable if you see them from his perspective. BUT. Look at the relationship between the boys and Bobby. Bobby has the exact same motivations as John, the exact same exposure to the life, etc... Even to the point that he literally doesn't have the option to take them out of the hunting life, since their real father is the one making that decision. But Bobby is still a better father figure to the boys than John ever was. So was John a good father? Not really. Did he have his reasons? Yes. And it couldn't be any other way for the show to be good, but the complexity of the father/son relationships is part of what makes this show so great. Thanks for such a thoughtful article!