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Disney-Prinzessin Which of the princesses called proactive/"not sitting around" do Du think are actually Mehr passive than people think? (explain why)

28 fans picked:
Belle
Belle
   43%
Elsa
Elsa
   25%
jasmin
jasmin
   14%
Anna
Anna
   7%
Ariel
Ariel
   4%
Mulan
Mulan
   4%
Rapunzel
Rapunzel
   4%
Pocahontas
Pocahontas
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Tiana
Tiana
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Merida
Merida
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Elsa
manu962 picked Elsa:
Ummm. I guess she is a bit more passive. I don't think people call her proactive.
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Belle
AudreyFreak picked Belle:
^true, not that exact word, but in reviews I've been hearing people say Elsa "gets stuff done" and isn't a passive damsel in distress, so I thought I'd include her, though I think she's as 'passive' as people say the older princesses are. Not that I find that bad either.
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Elsa
Silverrose1991 picked Elsa:
Mostly Belle, Elsa and Pocahontas.

Most of Elsa's actions are motivated by running away from her problems.

Pocahontas, at first, did nothing when John Smith was imprisoned: she let her father shut her up.

Belle dreamed of adventure and travelling but didn't chase it. Though, now that I think about it, I don't think she had resources to do so.
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Anna
Lanalamprouge picked Anna:
does nothing to get the friends she so desperately wants even though she can go out when she wants and isn't portrayed as too uppity to get friendly with the servants, lets a random guy place her next to elsa though she feel not like it, lets trolls/kristoff tell her what act of true love will save her, lets olaf tell her who is her true love, I guess me Belle is passive but I have actually never had first hand experience of her being called proactive so...
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Elsa
Tygers_Eye picked Elsa:
Not proactive at all. Nor Anna.

Their lives are completely dependent on what other people decide. Elsa's parents decided to reduce the castle staff and hide her away until she could disguise her powers, and she just went along with it. The Troll King took away Anna's memories of magic, her father said "it's for the best," and she never went against it. Even after her parents died, she didn't change anything that they decided. She just stayed the course, and would have done so indefinitely had her sister not taken her glove and her powers been exposed.

Then she ran away out of terror of her subjects reacting to her instead of trying to explain, calm, or endear herself to them, and again would have stayed hiding in the mountains had Anna not shown up. Anna told her the kingdom was frozen over, her newfound "confidence" shattered and she went back to being the frightened little girl like before. She again would have stayed in the castle trying to will the magic away (even though it has NEVER WORKED in the 10+ years she's been trying it) had she not been dragged back to the kingdom in chains. She escapes, but it's more out of fear of what her subjects will do to her once they learn she doesn't know how to stop the storm. She again would have remained running and hiding and choosing to try to "will away the storm" KNOWING it has NEVER WORKED BEFORE, had Hans not told her her sister was dead because of her. Then she crumpled over and would have been killed had Anna not saved her.

Elsa is completely passive and reactionary, not proactive or charge-taking. Her choices and fate are completely dependent on what other people decide, other people do, other people tell her. Even her song "Let It Go," which gets praised for being about empowerment, is really just her singing about running away and hiding from her problems. "Turn away and slam the door!" "It's funny how some distance makes everything seem small." And again, the events of the movie later shows that all that new "confidence" from the song completely shatters once Anna tells her her actions have consequences, then she wants to go back to cowering in fear of them.
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Tygers_Eye picked Elsa:
I wouldn't call Anna proactive either. She spends her childhood locked up inside the castle... even though she can leave at any time. Even if you could argue her parents discouraged it when they were alive and she was a little kid who respected their wishes, after they died she was 15 and could go for walks or rides whenever she wanted, but again just stayed the course of sitting around waiting for things to change. "For the First Time In Forever" tells about her desire for human companionship and true love, except there are servants in the castle she can interact with and people right outside the castle gates she can go to at any time.

I mean, sheesh. Rapunzel was locked in a tower in the middle of the woods, with no one to interact with but her "mother" and a chameleon she befriended, and was emotionally abused and manipulated into being terrified of the outside world for 18 years. And she STILL had the gumption to make a plan to leave, face her fears, and use the tools at her disposal to accomplish what she dreamed.

Anna lives in a staffed castle in the middle of a port city, where no one is forcing her to avoid human interaction, but she just passively sits around waiting for her parents and then older sister to open the gates so non-servants can come to her, rather than her going out to them. Even if you could argue she wants to respect their wishes, she never tries to talk, negotiate, find a compromise they can live with. She's completely dependent and reactionary to THEIR decisions, not her own.

I mean, heck. She feels Coronation Day is her ONE CHANCE to interact with people and find true love, but she didn't decide when and how coronation day would go. Other people decided to plan and run it, and her chance of "happiness" is dependent on how they run it. As shown when Hans manipulates and asks her to marry him (not the other way around), and Elsa tells them to end the party and close the gates early. She tells Elsa "I can't live like this anymore!" Elsa's response "Then leave." Anna's happiness is dependent on her sister's decisions, not her own. She passively goes along with what other people decide and then complains that she's dissatisfied/unhappy.
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