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I'm sure you're aware that there are many arguments against Delena; why they shouldn't be together, why it wouldn't work out, why Elena will choose Stefan in the end. These arguments have been bothering me for a long time, especially when I realised that there was no factual basis to back them up, relying instead on what would probably happen. I came up with nine Antwort to the nine arguments I thought were commonly used. They are all arguments I've heard used Von people, I did not make them up. If Du Liebe SE and BD and are here Von some accident (I know it can happen), oder if Du don't ship anyone in particular but don't think DE should be together (I know these people exist); please don't post pro-SE comments. It doesn't prove anything and only stirs up trouble and ill feeling towards SE/BD shippers. Obviously I Liebe Delena but I try to be as fair as possible when Schreiben about other couples and characters. It's fine if Du disagree with my points regarding SE and the Liebe dreieck and anything else I've mentioned here; constructive criticism is welcomed, bashing is not.

1. They assume that Elena will end up with Stefan because she fell in Liebe with him first.

This is purely speculative and one-sided, seeing as Elena and Damon aren't a couple yet. How can we decide who Elena ends up with when she's only had one serious relationship so far, with Stefan? We can't judge fairly when Elena hasn't got together with Damon yet. We don't know what kind of relationship they'll have, how it will affect them, how it will impact their development as characters.
This argument refuses to take the Liebe dreieck into account, and that in order for a Liebe dreieck to exist, the girl in the middle has to be torn between two loves.

2. They assume DE won't last long.

I find this a huge insult to the fanbase as well as the writers who are building DE's relationship, and Delena themselves. For the audience, half of the fun lies in the excitement of watching a relationship unfold - where the journey takes them, not the destination itself. So when people say that DE won't last long after watching the development of their friendship, their ups and downs, Damon falling in Liebe with Elena, the break down of their friendship, Damon confessing how he feels about her and then erasing her memory, his attempts to protect her in spite of her hostility towards him and whatever follows that - then I find it ironic. If DE aren't meant to last, then the writers wouldn't be so painstakingly slow in their approach to DE, scene Von scene, episode Von episode. Sometimes even scenes which don't feature Damon and Elena exclusively (like the "I'll protect her" moment in 'Masquerade', the hug between SE in 'Rose' and the hook-up between Damon and Rose in 'Katerina') are about DE. Unlike SE, Delena's relationship hasn't been rushed, which makes them Mehr likely to last the length of the series, NOT less.

3. They assume Damon will find another girl and fall in Liebe with her.

I think anybody who truly understands the nature of Damon's character and how deeply he loves would hate this argument oder at least be offended Von it. Damon stayed faithful to Katherine for 145 years, refusing to give up on her. What makes them think he'll Liebe Elena any less just because (for the moment) she's currently tied up with Stefan? They seem to think Damon is a flighty character who falls in and out of Liebe as quickly as turning a light switch on and off. According to everything we've seen and know about Damon, the idea that he would just find another girl and fall as deeply in Liebe with her as he did with Elena is an insult to him and to us. It puts him on the same level as a celebrity couple who appear in magazines raving about how in Liebe they are, teilt, split up, find another relationship and do the same thing all over again. While there will be other girls (like Rose) and 'hot hook-ups' they are nothing Mehr than diversions for Damon as we saw in 2x09 'Katerina'. They are there to block out his true feelings for Elena, oder to offer a temporary escape from reality but they can't give him what he wants and needs. Nor can they make him forget that he loves Elena. The pain and loneliness he wants to block out is still going to be there the Weiter day.
I suspect that those who are fond of using this argument have an ulterior motive: to promote their ship of choice: SE oder Bamon.

4. They compare the dreieck in the Zeigen to the one in the 'Twilight' saga. So if Elena = Bella, Stefan = Edward, and Damon = Jacob, then just like in the saga, Elena will choose Edward (Stefan).

I find this comparison completely unimaginative and idiotic. It's not that I have anything against 'Twilight'. It's just that their argument is based on the assumption that 'The Vampire Diaries' must be the same as 'Twilight' simply because it features Vampire and a Liebe triangle. The mythology is different, the characters are different, and the dynamic between Damon, Elena and Stefan are completely different. So how can it be the same?

I understand why people would cast Stefan as Edward; he certainly seems to quite similar in some ways. He's also the brother Elena falls in Liebe with first, which accounts for a huge part of reasoning behind this argument. But I think that in the light of Kürzlich episodes, Du might be surprised when Du study Damon and Edward side Von side. Stefan has done a lot of things to protect Elena, but he has not done the one thing that Damon and Edward have: let the girl they loved go because they believed she would ultimately be better off.
In 'New Moon', Edward lies to Bella, telling her all kinds of things to make her believe he doesn't want to be with her anymore. He takes (or hides) the CD he gave to her and her photographs so Bella won't have anything to remind her of the time they had together, thinking it will be easier for her to Bewegen on without them. In 'The Vampire Diaries' Damon tells Elena he loves her, then compels her to forget it happened, so she won't have to deal with it at all. I am not suggesting Damon is the same as Edward; my point is that Damon is a complex character. Sticking him in the role of Jacob does not do him justice when he arguably possesses a combination of traits seen in Edward and Jacob. Furthermore, to suggest that Damon will end up with someone else like Jacob did in the saga isn't following the way the Liebe dreieck in the Zeigen is developing. Bella never really had a romantic relationship with Jacob in the saga. It might have developed with time if she hadn't ran off to Italy to rescue Edward in 'New Moon'. If Edward had never left, it's unlikely that Bella would ever have grown to need (and love) Jacob the way she did. Not for one moment when I was Lesen 'Eclipse' did I think Bella would turn around and choose Jacob, so it wasn't a very convincing Liebe dreieck in the sense that I always knew who Bella would choose before the ending. I feel that people are too quick to compare the Zeigen to 'Twilight' and in jumping to a conclusion which hasn't even come close to being reached in the show.

5, They argue that if DE ever get together, then it will mess up Stefan and Damon's friendship/bond as brothers.

Wasn't the Salvatore brothers friendship already messed up long before either of them had set eyes on Elena? And hasn't Elena actually helped them to get along thus far, not (like some have presumed) made things worse? Haven't Stefan and Damon agreed to work together to protect Elena, teaming up to fight Katherine and anyone else who's a threat to her safety? Haven't they reached a new understanding, when Stefan apologised to Damon for forcing him to turn? And most importantly, hasn't Damon proved he might be the Mehr selfless brother Von stepping out of the contest for Elena's heart? It won't always be this way, but the dreieck is so different from the one that happened in 1864. Elena genuinely cares about them both, and as a result, Damon and Stefan have forged a new bond in spite of the fact that Stefan knows that Damon loves Elena. The truth is, without Elena, this new alliance between the brothers would not have been possible.

6. They claim that Von falling in Liebe with Damon, Elena will be just 'another Katherine'.

This is completely far-fetched and illogical, when we all know Katherine enjoyed stringing Damon along. She loved having two brothers vying for her attentions, and played it to her advantage, gloating that "I'm the one who gets to make all the rules...because I'm spoiled." The fact that she was wreaking havoc on Damon and Stefan's relationship didn't matter to her in the least. In order for Elena to be like Katherine, she would have to adopt the same selfish, manipulative, lying, murderous behaviour. Loving Damon in itself isn't going to do it. The writers have emphasised over and over how different Elena is to Katherine - that's why Stefan fell in Liebe with her, she was a better version of Katherine. I find it odd that it's only when it comes to Damon that the comparison to Katherine pops up. Doesn't Elena Liebe Stefan, just as Katherine does, even echoing her almost word for word in 'The Return': "It'll always be Stefan"? If loving the same guy as her lookalike doesn't make Elena the same as her, why does it apply to Damon, when we all know Katherine didn't Liebe him in the first place?
Elena would have to do a lot of evil things before she could be put in the same box as Katherine, including tearing the brothers apart; but she has actually helped to heal Damon and Stefan's rift. She cares about both of them, and would never deliberately play them against each other so I don't see how falling in Liebe with Damon means that she is the same as Katherine.

7. They argue that SE are the 'main couple' of the show, whereas DE are the supporting act, oder for entertainment value only.
"It wouldn't make sense if they built the Liebe story for SE just to give us DE in the end."

Du can turn this argument round and say exactly the same thing about DE. What's the point in taking all these episodes/seasons to build their relationship if it's only going to end with SE anyway? In fact, this argument makes a lot Mehr sense for DE, considering that it's taking much longer for DE to get together. SE got together in 10 episodes.
Most of Du know that DE won a place on E!Online's 'Couples We Love' gallery, with 83 percent of votes. SE may have been a couple before Delena, but that does not mean that the majority of viewers are fascinated with SE. If SE really were 'the main couple', they would have won the poll.

8. They assume Elena will choose Stefan because he's the good guy.

I think the reason why this argument tends to get thrown around a lot might be due to the fact that Damon is supposed to be the 'bad' brother whereas Stefan is seen as the 'good' one. In these types of stories, the girl usually goes for the good guy, not the anti-hero.

When the Zeigen began, Stefan was certainly presented as the good brother, while Damon was the bad one who stirred up trouble, messing with Caroline, Vicki, pretty much anyone who got in his way. But as the Zeigen went on, I think the distinction between which brother was good and which was bad became Mehr and Mehr blurry. In order to understand who Damon and Stefan really are, Du have to look into their past and see the people and events that shaped them into what they became, and who they are now. The trouble is, we don't know very much about Stefan's life after he became a vampire. We don't know what made him give up drinking human blood. But we have a vague idea from his conversations with Lexi in '162 Candles' and Mehr recently during the car journey with Damon in 'Rose' that he was a different person back then.

Damon: Remember the days when all Du lived for was blood? Du were the guy who would rip someone apart just for the fun of it?

Stefan: Du mean when I was Mehr like you?

From what we can gather here, there is clearly a much darker side to Stefan that we don't know about, and Elena doesn't know about. There are obviously things about his life that Stefan can't tell her, probably because he's worried what her reaction would be, so he feels he has to keep that side of him hidden from her. Perhaps in the end, there is not much difference between Stefan and Damon, oder at any rate, less than we think there is. The only thing that sets Stefan above Damon in the good behaviour rank is that he found his humanity a lot earlier than Damon did.

I think there is definitely another side of Damon we don't know about. In 'The Return', Katherine calls him "my sweet, innocent Damon" but at the time I wondered if she was only being sarcastic. Then in 'Masquerade' she asks "What happened to Du Damon? Du used to be so sweet and polite." He Antworten "That Damon died a long time ago." Sweet? Innocent? Polite? Damon?! Hard to believe, isn't it? While we can only speculate what might have happened to the Damon who was innocent and sweet, and what happened to Stefan who wasn't as in touch with his humanity as he is now but found it again, we would be entirely deceived to label one brother wholly good and the other wholly bad.

How does this all fit into the Liebe triangle? Well, Du could argue that in a way, Elena has already chosen Damon. Not in the romantic sense - at least, not yet. But she cares about him enough to jump in and save him when his life is in danger after he'd done something terrible to her. This is particularly poignant in 'Brave New World'. She hates him. She can barely look at him, talk to him oder hear his name mentioned in conversations. But she stopped Bonnie from burning him to death when someone else in her shoes might have been tempted to stand back. Why? Because it was the right thing to do? Because she wasn't about to seek revenge on him even though he probably deserved it? Yes and yes, but there's more. If Elena didn't see something good in Damon, if she didn't feel something for him, then she wouldn't have any reason to save him. Because going after Jeremy in a blind rage was one of the worst things Damon could have done to her, and Elena knows it. Du can't go any lower than that. Elena is either the most righteous human being who's walked the earth since Mother Teresa, oder she feels something for Damon which prevents her from standing back oder walking away.

9. They assume they already know how the story will end.

How many times have Du seen something like this: "I enjoy DE's scenes. But it will be Stefan and Elena in the end."

I believe that the main reason why people go for SE as endgame is because they seem like the safest option. I doubt that SE shippers would throw a tantrum if Elena chose Damon in the end, because even some of them can see that DE have something intriguing. One SE shipper told me that she preferred SE simply because she thought they were 'cuter'. 'Cute' is an adjective that describes SE very well, and is why they appeal to many people. But if people are claiming that SE will be endgame already, it's because they are complacent about the state of SE's relationship, and how it will be in the future. In a sense, they are taking it for granted that nothing will come between SE; not Katherine, not Damon, not anyone. If they are so sure of SE's future, then it means the relationship has never gegeben them any reason to doubt how it could be otherwise. So of course people will say they will end up together, their relationship has never been pushed to breaking point. Sure, they've been through dark times and rough patches; Stefan fell off his animal blood diet and lied to Elena and had to be locked in the cellar. But even Katherine's threats weren't enough to cause serious damage. Through it all, they've remained loyal to each other to the very end. So much so that we've never had to wonder if their relationship will live to see another day. They staged a break-up in order to stay together. When they teilt, split up for real, it wasn't because they wanted to, it was for the sake of the people Elena loved so...does that even count?! If people assume that SE will be endgame, then maybe SE have never truly been challenged in their relationship. If SE have never really had to fight to save their love, then maybe they are not the couple people think they are.

SE might be 'cute' together, but they do not live on the edge where it's dangerous and unpredictable, irrational and terrifying to Liebe someone else and want to be with them so much Du would be desperate enough to do anything, no matter how stupid and reckless it might be. When Du know Du should get the heck away to somewhere safe, sicher but try as Du might, Du just can't. When you're in such a vulnerable place, Du know if your Liebe is real and how strong it is. But if you've never been there, Du can never really know. People might think SE have a solid relationship when in fact, they've never had to endure any trials oder hardships which pushed them until they were right on the edge.

Earlier in the year, a lot of DE shippers were bemoaning the fact that Kevin and Julie were Singen the praises of SE. Kevin called them 'soulmates,' and Julie raved that SE were the "True, epic Liebe story of the show." Fast vorwärts-, nach vorn a few months, and Kevin is apparently saying something quite different, stating "You don't always end up with your soulmate" (whatever that means). Does it sound like Kevin and Julie have made up their minds about who will end up with whom? Unless Du can see into the future, know Kevin and Julie personally, and they've already written Seasons 3,4 and 5, Du can't assume Du already know how the story will end. If it's one thing that keeps the audience on their toes, it's never knowing what will happen. And even if Du could see into the future and know what the ending is, would Du really want to? It would be like watching the end of a movie at the beginning. It would spoil your enjoyment and take away the anticipation which makes the Zeigen so addictive. If the ending of 'The Vampire Diaries' was easy to predict, then we wouldn't have a show.
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Elena was lying fast asleep, much to Damon’s relief. Something really wrong was going on out there and Damon dreaded the moment he’d have to tell Elena. She already had so much pain to go through, he didn’t want to make it any worse.
But Damon knew Elena had seen right through him and when she’d open her eyes she’d demand to know what was going on and he wouldn’t be able to lie again.
He took his coffee and brought it to his lips, when he felt a sharp, burning pain in his head. His cup fell on the floor as he moved his hands to his head. He fell on his knees as he screamed.
Elena...
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Bonnie turned to Keith. “Have Du ever been in this house before?” Keith nodded heavy. “Okay, find me five candles and something to lit them” Keith ran off to fetch those things and Bonnie walked to the cupboard. She opened the drawers and searched them until she found a piece of paper and a pen.
“What are Du up to?” Matt asked both curious and fascinated. While Bonnie wrote something down she explained.
“Months Vor I put a curse on Damon to keep him in check. I could follow his every word and move”
“Yeah, I know”
“It turns out there are some leftovers from that curse”...
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Veronica dragged Jeremy downstairs and threw him on the cold floor of a basement. Jeremy screamed and held his leg. As he tried to pull the Arrow out, Veronica started pacing up and down.
“You lied to me” she muttered agitated, with a feral look in her eyes. “I asked Du straightforward if Du were a medium and Du lied to me in my face” She walked to Jeremy and looked down on him. “How long has your aunt been spying on me? What does she know?” Jeremy didn’t answer and thus she kicked his wounded leg. Veronica raised her voice above Jeremy’s cries. “How long?” she repeated...
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Matt tried to get the front door open, but failed, while Bonnie tried to call someone. When after her sixth attempt no one had picked up, she had to fight the urge to throw her cell into the wall. She turned to Keith. “Can Du try the phone, please?” she asked a little irritated. Keith was just sitting there, being useless. Keith stood slowly and walked to the phone. He picked up the horn, but heard nothing. “The phone’s dead” he noted, sounding not very surprised. He walked back to Bonnie. Matt had gone upstairs to see if he could open one of the windows.
“Maybe we should stay...
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Though visiting Stunde was long over, it didn’t stop Stefan from sneaking into Elena’s bedroom. Elena had fallen asleep shortly after Bonnie had left. Stefan had expected Damon to be in the room, but Elena happened to be alone.
Stefan walked to the bett and sank down on it. Elena, sensing his stare, opened her eyes and frowned.
“Stefan?” she asked sleepy.
“It’s okay. Go back to sleep” Stefan hushed, regretting he woke her.
“No” Elena moaned and she sat up difficult. “I’m up” She cast him a faint, tired smile. “I’m glad Du came”
“I had to come and see you, but I didn’t...
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“How are Du holding up?” Bonnie carefully tried to make a conversation. Elena rewarded her with a furious don’t ask stupid Fragen look. “You know, I’ve been trying to communicate with the spirits. Maybe I can persuade them to help you”
“No, thank you. I think you’ve done enough already” Elena replied cold.
Bonnie looked down and thought about leaving for a second, but then lectured. No Mehr running, no Mehr hiding. It was time to own up to her mistakes.
“Elena” Bonnie started, looking up again. “There’s something I’ve wanted to tell Du ever since I was released...
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Damon and Elena were lying on the bed, Elena’s head resting on Damon’s chest. “I believe we’ve been here before” Elena mumbled.
“Hmm” Damon confirmed. “Do Du remember what Du sagte back then?”
Elena relegated on the bett and closed her eyes. “I sagte I wouldn’t leave you, that I would stay with Du until the very end”
“You should know that no matter what happens I’m not leaving you” Damon promised softly. Elena felt a teardrop on her head, but she didn’t look up. “Promise me Du won’t either”
“I promise” Elena whispered and she pinched Damon’s hand....
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Elijah was looking around in the living room when Damon and Elena came downstairs. They’d hopped in the dusche and hadn’t particularly hurried up. No, they hadn’t been doing it, but with Elena not feeling very well, the last thing they wanted was a showdown with a pair of Originals.
When they came downstairs, Katherine was already settled with a blood bag and Elijah checked Damon’s extensive book collection. As soon as Elijah lay eyes on Elena he raised an eyebrow.
“Forgive me for being blunt,” he said. “but Du look rather unwell”
“That’s because she saw your face” Damon...
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The Grill.
Bonnie was sitting at the bar, gazing at a candle, trying to lit it with a candle.
“What are Du doing?” Veronica asked while she dried glasses.
“Nothing” Bonnie sagte quick and she looked away from the candle.
“I’ve seen Du before. Your Keith’s friend, right?” Veronica acted all innocent. “He told me about you. sagte Du were such a nice girl. I hate to be the one to bring Du the news, but he’s a little messed up in the head, so Du might want to keep your distance”
“Really?” Bonnie asked, sipping her water. “Last time I checked Du were the one planning...
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Elijah grabbed Rebekah’s throat as he put himself up.
“Where is Niklaus?” he asked shaking with fury. Rebekah took Elijah’s squeezing hand and pulled it away.
“You’re weak. Du need to regain strength” she sagte strict and bossy.
“What I need is to find Niklaus and put that dagger in his heart” Elijah objected.
“I’m with Elijah on this one” Katherine sagte and Elijah turned his head to her slowly. “Elena?” Katherine shook her head. “Katerina” Elijah realized. “You stand Von my sister as she gives me my life back…and yet I don’t see Du shiver with fear. Perhaps...
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Hey all,

I'm new to Fanpop and don't normally write essays on fictional characters but I was browsing around and have been Lesen a lot lately about how Elena just needs to suck it up, stop crying/being whiny over killing Connor, just go for it with Damon already and I'd just like to write my own feelings on the matter.

First off, I am a Delena fan. It's actually what got me into the series, which just happened this past summer. I clicked on a song on Youtube and it happened to be a Damon/Elena Musik vid (A Thousand Years Von Christina Perri - very fitting I think).

Anyway, I've been reading...
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The sun rays shone through the curtains and illuminated Elena’s face. She slowly opened her eyes and brought her hand to her head. She threw off the sheets and swung her legs over the edge off the bed.
She frowned and rubbed over her arms.
“Are Du cold?” Damon asked, who had woken up as well. He couldn’t see Elena’s face and thus couldn’t know that it wasn’t the temperature in the room that was bothering her. She turned around and Damon flashed to her.
“You’re hurting” he realized worried.
Elena nodded. “Yeah, and I’ll be hurting a lot Mehr since we’re training all...
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I originally gepostet this on my Tumblr so pardon any references that don't apply to fanpop!

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I think I’ll call this - “I’m not afraid.” [or - “I’m completely confident about Delena & couldn’t care less about Caroline encouraging Stefan to go after Elena again because Elena has finally accepted the truth!” aka “Elena is in Liebe with Damon & she’s not hiding from this truth any longer, so throw Damon/Elena whatever obstacles Du please, because their Liebe is strong enough to prevail!”

O K A Y! This is probably going to be pretty long seeing...
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“Alright, I’ll do it!” Rachel exclaimed, looking angry at Stefan. “But if I get killed Von Veronica’s minions I will come back to haunt you”
“Is that a promise?” Stefan teased. Then he was serious again. “Did Du guys hear that?” he asked concerned. Rachel nodded, Jeremy shook his head. Stefan walked towards the bushes, when a swarm of birds flew out of the them.
“Mystery solved” Jeremy sagte and Stefan shrugged and walked back.
Derek almost let out a sigh of deep relief, but realized just in time that the sound of his breath would give him away. Stefan and Damon believed...
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Rachel had made up her mind. Stefan was right. It was not right to turn her back on her family. Veronica wasn’t family. Kelsey and Amber were. And they were supernatural, as was she. Taking Veronica’s side would be like denying her nature and it would be an insult to her children. Gabe had made her a prisoner, had forced her to become this. She wouldn’t let anyone tell her her species had no right to live, that there was no place for them under the sun.
“I’ll do it” she sagte determined. Then, thinking about Veronica if she found out about her betrayal, she felt less confident. “She...
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Rachel stared at her eldest daughter, crying of happiness and grief. The last time they had seen each other Rachel had told Kelsey about her true nature and things didn’t end well between them. Now all Rachel wanted was for Kelsey to become solid so she could take her in her arms like any normal mother would.
“Are you…a ghost?” she asked. “Why haven’t Du try making contact with me? Why now?”
“We tried, mom” Amber replied. “When Derek dug up our graves on Veronica’s command, he didn’t just release our bodies, but our spirits as well. We tried to reach you, but like Jeremy...
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Elena parked her car at the Boarding House. Caroline had taxed her with the message to get her arsch there ASAP. She opened the door and looked inside.
“Damon!” she called.
Damon appeared in the hallway, frowning. “What are Du doing here?”
“Caroline taxed me” Elena said, waving her phone. “Hello to you, too, btw” She tried to look over Damon’s shoulder. “What’s going on?”
Before Damon could answer Caroline appeared.
“Elena, what are Du doing here?” she asked, but in a completely different tone than Damon. “Come on” she continued as she took Elena’s hand and...
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Damon looked pissed at Veronica while he pulled the vervained Arrow out of his shoulder. He scribbled up and looked around to see if he recognized anyone. He didn’t. Veronica aimed her crossbow at him and fired again. Damon screamed, but managed to stay on his feet.
“What’s going on?” a familiar voice sagte agitated. Derek pushed some people aside and looked at Damon, who looked back betrayed.
Veronica handed the crossbow to Derek and her eyes still pinched on Damon she said: “Go ahead. Finish the job, Derek”
“What?” Derek asked confused.
“Kill him” Veronica said. “He killed...
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Damon walked towards the old building. Jeremy had told Damon Veronica was alone now and though Jeremy didn’t want Damon to hurt her, he still thought that if Damon threatened her she’d listen and leave. Damon, on the other hand, very well knew Veronica wouldn’t let him scare her off and so there was only one thing left to do. Kill the bitch.
He opened the door, which was unlocked. That should’ve occurred strange to him, but Damon didn’t pay much attention to it. He walked through the hallway until he found the largest room.
“Hello, Damon” Veronica said. “So, Jeremy signs up...
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