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What is your opinion on imprinting?

In my opinion, imprinting is really sexist and creepy. Also because it seems to praise obsession, pedophilia, child grooming, statutory rape, physical abuse, female subserviance, etc. I just want to know your opinions.
 AstridGoof8219 posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr
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KissOfDoom said:
I never really understood why S. Meyer invented imprinting. As a plot point, it's useless and unessessary. It doesn't contribute to the story, oder moves the events forward. The only use of it was to give Jacob a cheesy, happy ending (because God forbit if anything goes wrong in this story). And as always, she didn't think of the negative messages of imprinting either. First of all, it IS child grooming and pedophilia, even though she has done her best to prove it's not. One of the main ways Stephenie Meyer used to defend imprinting is that Quil and Jacob attempt to form a brotherly bond with Clair and Renesmee instead of a romantic one. This might indeed excuse the whole thing if imprinting was about true Liebe oder soulmates. But it's not. It's about carrying on the shapeshifter genes. There's NO real "love" here, but merely a way of producing offsprings. So the imprinter can never really be a "brother" oder a "friend" to the impritee, since the insgesamt purpose will always be a sexual relationship, as soon as the girl matures.

Besides that, I believe that the whole idea of imprinting clearly reflects S. Meyer's perspective on feminism. As always in the Twilight saga, women don't actually have a choice. And things get worse when Du look at the relationship of Sam and Emily. During the one and only fight they had, he phased into a werewolf and badly injured her, completely deforming her for life. In any other book oder in the real world, she would have either left him oder stayed with him only because of fear he might do it again. But in Stephenie Meyer's world, Sam's incredibly violent act somehow made Emily fall in Liebe with him. Since then, she spends her life cooking and cleaning for him and his friends, and sooner oder later she will also be carrying his baby (it's meant to happen) In conclusion: According to Meyer, the only things women are good at are cooking, cleaning, and breeding. A bright examble of anti-feminism.
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posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr 
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"It's about carrying on the shapeshifter genes. There's NO real "love" here, but merely a way of producing offspring." I don't understand. Isn't all Liebe an evolutionary mechanism to ensure that an individual will reproduce, and so contribute to the gene pool?
-Grace- posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr
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I think KissOfDoom's point is Mehr based on principle than on practicality. I always interpreted imprinting as Liebe at first sight. I'll try to explain the way I did to my best friend the other night. Right now, all around the world, there might be, say, 1000 people who Du would be compatible with. The kind of person that if Du got to know them, Du would be a great couple and stay together forever. Now imagine that you're a werewolf, and if Du see one of these 1000 people, Du imprint on them. Technically the imprinter (and the imprintee, in the case of childhood imprinting) are not gegeben a choice, but practically, that doesn't matter, because they're perfect for each other.
-Grace- posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr
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As well as the frankly paedophilic aspects of imprinting, it's a fairly transparent work around for Meyer to give Jacob a happy ending. Which is probably why it isn't terribly well thought out. Regarding Emily and Sam - it's quite disturbing that Meyer actually manages, with her explanation of how disfiguring Emily was "an accident", to make a werewolf injuring a woman the woman's fault. According to Meyer's own explanation, Emily didn't get injured because Sam couldn't control his feelings oder his transformation, nope, according to Meyer, Emily got injured because she made a perfectly valid Kommentar that threw Sam into a rage, then when he was trying to warn her off, she stepped towards him. Essentially, Meyer's explanation is to blame the victim. I'm gobsmacked that so many people are OK with that.
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bri-marie said:
At first, I didn't care for the idea - it took away the girls' (other person? Can Leah imprint oder is it just the guys? I forget) choice in who they want to be with and the guys choice of how he acts (he is to be exactly what she needs).

But when Quill imprinted on that little girl and Jacob on Nessie, I absolutely hated it. It was creepy, an adult man waiting around for a little girl to grow up so he can become her lover - after Schauspielen as her adult male role model until she's old enough to see him differently.
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posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr 
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I found that very disgusting! It is absolutley wrong! Imagine your boyfriend saying, "I made out with your mom once." I think Stephenie just wanted Jake to have happy ending, but he doesn't have to end up with anyone. I agree with you. :)
DracoLuver posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr
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I found it disturbing
teamsalvatore98 posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr
xxXsk8trXxx said:
I completley agree with you. It's creepy, sexist, and pedophillic. Girls should be allowed to choose who they marry. Plus, when they reach marrying age, the imprinter would probably be pretty old, which is creepy.
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lasalle28 said:
At first, I didn't like it because I thought it was just a deus ex machina and Meyer trying to get out of Schreiben out a decent story of how people came to Liebe each other over time because it takes effort. Then I saw the Sam/Emily/Leah situation and I hated it for being a deus ex machina, sexist, and abusive. THEN, when I saw the Quil/Claire and Jacob/Nessie situation I was disgusted. Now I hate it because of the deus ex machina plot device, abuse, sexism, pedopilia, and child grooming.
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posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr 
mari_giovani said:
I think it's sick and just the total opposite of free-will. I mean, the girls have no choice, yeah the Wölfe imprinted on them but the girls didnt. So they just have their whole Liebe life's figured out due to a stupid imprint...seriously!?


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posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr 
Renarimae said:
I hate it. It's so sexist and disgusting. The girls lives will be totally predictable, they wouldn't even be able to choose. I mean, having teenage to adult shapeshifters that imprint on little girls just to get in their pants and make shapeshifter Babys with them? That's purely horrible!
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boolander25 said:
Honestly, I thought it was a really cool idea when I first read the book. Yeah, I can see how it would be sexist and stuff like that, but when I first read it in the books, it seemed like a really cool idea. I don't know why, but it just kind of intrigued me because it was like Liebe at first sight, but not so cliche, Du know?
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It was kind of like that with me too.
Renarimae posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr
para-scence said:
i do agree its pedopholic. But i also think it's kind of sweet in a way. But its too over the top.
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posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr 
barblicious said:
i agree that it is sexiest and creepy but i also think it is sweet. as it is a book i can just go along with it but if it was real life i would schlagen, punsch who ever imprints on my niece..t is disgusting really & i wish Leah could imprint atleast.. but then the werewolfs were suppose to a an all male pack..ts an age thing but the girls do have a choice to live their lives..until they realise..weird but ta werewolf thing
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HecateA said:
At the beggining I thought it was just Liebe at first sight. And then, I dunno, I guess I read too fast and didn't take time to register that Quill loved Clare, until I read BD, then I realised that:
a) Leah Lost Sam to her COUSIN
b) Quill loves a three Jahr old
c) Jake loved a newborn, which is the only thing keeping him on most anti's lists of bearable characters.

Then I started questioning it, read some Artikel on the CAT and agreed with them, and now I see its not Liebe at first sight.
And Leah is my Favorit character
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posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr 
theblondegirl said:
It's not only vile and disgusting, but it doesn't make a lick of sense. I mean, the Wölfe falling in Liebe with the girls I can get, but pray tell me, WHY would the girls Liebe them back? Human mind doesn't work like that! Meyer Schreiben that "it's hard to resist that level of devotion" makes NO SENSE!
Actually, it's very easy to resist that level of devotion. Stalkers, rabid fans, emotionally unstable people are all capable of loving and worshipping the object of their desire but this doesn't mean the object of their desire would automatically learn to Liebe them back.
Also, nobody wants a doormat. Jacob sagte that imprinting is when "you'd do anything, be anything" for the one Du love. That would not win Du any respect oder favours from the one Du love. At most they would just use you, and upon noticing your abnormal obsession, would probably end up pushing Du away and avoiding Du as a result.

In Meyer's Bücher there's several of these situations that just wouldn't come true. For instance Emily somehow falling in Liebe with Sam even though he was engaged to her cousin AND mutilated her face - in real life that would never happen unless she already harbored some feelings toward him.
Also, Clare and Renesmee would never learn to Liebe their imprint-buddies back in a romantic way. Once again, human mind doesn't work like that; Du don't fall in Liebe and masturbate to the thought of some dude who basically raised you, indulged Du like your Favorit uncle, changed your diapers and babysat Du when Du were little. There's even biological research on this: check out "Westermark effect" on wikipedia. It's found under "imprinting", so technically Meyer should've read about it if she did any research about imprinting at all...

I can't explain why this imprinting as it were was supposed to be such a good idea. It's pointless, it doesn't even create as much as good character development. For instance, Sam falling in Liebe with Emily but her NOT answering his feelings could've been really interesting. But no, we can't have interesting. We just have to stick with boring and perverse.

Sorry for ranting but imprinting is what I hated most about those books..
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frankie_fan said:
I think it is very wrong since an adult can imprint on an infant and sexist.
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Emmalie1935 said:
I'm a Twilight fan, but I find it completely creepy. But, it's not really pedophilia. Jacob wasn't in Liebe with Nessie. It's just like he would do anything to protect her and he would always be there for her.
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posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr 
-Grace- said:
I really like it :)

Technically it's taking away their choice, but I think the idea is that whoever they imprint on IS perfectly suited to them! Wouldn't that be neat? Imagine meeting someone who had imprinted on you, and not knowing anything about them, but knowing that they were perfect for you, and that Du would fall in Liebe :D
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posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr 
alexisn10 said:
It being completely unnecessary only makes it weirder in my opinion. I know Jacob looks at Renesmee as a younger sister but in a way, it comes off as: "Imma get dat arsch when she turns 18 though lol". It's just...dafuq? Although the series ended back in 08, I still cheer for Jacob and Leah.
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posted Vor mehr als einem Jahr 
Lovehinagurl44 said:
I don't like it because it ruined Jacob's character for me. Many people try to defend it,and no matter what they say its still kinda creepy to me. I know it broke his obsession over Bella,but it would've been better if Jacob imprinted on Leah.
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saammiii said:
This is coming straight from Stephenie Meyer after a Fan asked her how she came up with the idea of 'imprinting': Imprinting was inspired Von two different sources: ducklings and dragons. Imprinting actually exists in nature, but usually between parents and their offspring. I saw a nature documentary about ducklings imprinting on their moms and it always stuck with me. The other inspiration is Anne McCaffrey’s dragon Bücher (which, if Du haven’t read them, do so now! Start with Dragonflight). In her mythology, humans and Drachen bond so tightly that if one of them dies, the other either suicides oder goes mad. They Liebe each other with an absolute and unreasoning Liebe that never falters oder changes. I was always captivated Von this concept, and I wanted to explore that kind of life-changing and compulsory relationship.
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