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This is interesting!!
> Science vs. God
>
> "Let me explain the problem science has with Jesus
> Christ." The atheist professor of philosophy pauses
> before his class and then asks one of his new students to
> stand.
>
> "You're a Christian, aren't you, son?"
>
> "Yes sir," the student says.
>
> "So Du believe in God?"
>
> "Absolutely."
>
> "Is God good?"
>
> "Sure! God's good."
>
> "Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?"
>
> "Yes."
>
> "Are Du good oder evil?"
>
> "The Bible says I'm evil."
>
> The professor grins knowingly. "Aha! The Bible!"
> He considers for a moment.
>
> "Here's one for you. Let's say there's a
> sick person over here and Du can cure him. Du can do it.
> Would Du help him? Would Du try?"
>
> "Yes sir, I would."
>
> "So you're good...!"
>
> "I wouldn't say that."
>
> "But why not say tha t? You'd help a sick and
> maimed person if Du could. Most of us would if we could.
> But God doesn't."
>
> The student does not answer, so the professor continues.
> "He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian
> who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal
> him How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can Du answer that
> one?"
>
> The student remains silent.
>
> "No, Du can't, can you?" the professor says.
> He takes a sip of water from a glass on his schreibtisch to give the
> student time to relax.
>
> "Let's start again, young fella Is God good?"
>
>
> "Er... yes," the student says.
>
> "Is Satan good?"
>
> The student doesn't hesitate on this one.
> "No."
>
> "Then where does Satan come from?"
>
> The student : "From...God.."
>
> "That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell
> me, son. Is there evil in this world?"
>
> "Yes, sir."
>
> "Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make
> everything, correct?"
>
> "Yes."
>
> "So who created evil?" The professor continued,
> "If God created everything, then God created evil,
> since evil exists, and according to the principle that our
> works define who we are, then God is evil."
>
> Without allowing the student to answer, the professor
> continues: "Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred?
> Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this
> world?"
>
> The student: "Yes."
>
> "So who created them?"
>
> The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats
> his question. "Who created them? There is still no
> answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front
> of the classroom. The class is mesmerized.
>
> "Tell me," he continues onto another student.
> "Do Du believe in Jesus Christ, son?"
>
> The student's voice is confident: "Yes, professor,
> I do."
>
> The old man stops pacing. "Science says Du have five
> senses Du use to identify and observe the world around you.
> Have Du ever seen Jesus?"
>
> "No sir. I've never seen Him"
>
> "Then tell us if you've ever heard your
> Jesus?"
>
> "No, sir, I have not."
>
> "Have Du ever actually felt your Jesus, tasted your
> Jesus oder smelled your Jesus? Have Du ever had any sensory
> perception of Jesus Christ, oder God for that matter?"
>
> "No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't."
>
> "Yet Du still believe in him?"
>
> "Yes."
>
> "According to the rules of empirical, testable,
> demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't
> exist. What do Du say to that, son?"
>
> "Nothing," the student replies. "I only have
> my faith."
>
> "Yes, faith," the professor repeats. "And
> that is the problem science has with God. There is no
> evidence, only faith."
>
> The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a
> Frage of his own. "Professor, is there such thing as
> heat?"
>
> "Yes," the professor replies. "There's
> heat."
>
> "And is there such a thing as cold?"
>
> "Yes, son, there's cold too."
>
> "No sir, there isn't."
>
> The professor turns to face the student, obviously
> interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The
> student begins to explain.
>
> "You can have lots of heat, even Mehr heat,
> super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little
> heat oder no heat, but we don't have anything called
> 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero,
> which is no heat, but we can't go any further after
> that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be
> able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees. Every body
> oder object is susceptible to study when it has oder transmits
> energy, and heat is what makes a body oder matter have oder
> transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence
> of heat. Du see, sir, cold is only a word we use to
> describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat
> we can measure in therm al units because heat is energy.
> Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of
> it."
>
> Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the
> classroom, sounding like a hammer.
>
> "What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing
> as darkness?"
>
> "Yes," the professor Antworten without hesitation.
> "What is night if it isn't darkness?"
>
> "You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not
> something; it is the absence of something. Du can have low
> light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if
> Du have no light constantly Du have nothing and it's
> called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use
> to define the word. In reality, darkness isn't. If it
> were, Du would be able to make darkness darker,
> wouldn't you?"
>
> The professor begins to smile at the student in front of
> him. This will be a good semester. "So what point are
> Du making, young man?"
>
> "Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical
> premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must
> also be flawed."
>
> The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this
> time. "Flawed? Can Du explain how?"
>
> "You are working on the premise of duality," the
> student explains. "You argue that there is life and
> then there's death; a good God and a bad God. Du are
> viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we
> can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought.
> It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much
> less fully understood either one. To view death as the
> opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death
> cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the
> opposite of life, just the absence of it."
>
> "Now tell me, professor. Do Du teach your students
> that they evolved from a monkey?"
>
> "If Du are referring to the natural evolutionary
> process, young man, yes, of course I do"
>
> "Have Du ever observed evolution with your own eyes,
> sir?"
>
> The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as
> he realizes where the argument is going. A very good
> semester, indeed.
>
> "Since no one has ever observed the process of
> evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is
> an on-going endeavour, are Du not teachingyour opinion,
> sir? Are Du now not a scientist, but a preacher?"
>
> The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until
> the commotion has subsided.
>
> "To con tinue the point Du were making earlier to the
> other student, let me give Du an example of what I
> mean."
>
> The student looks around the room. "Is there anyone in
> the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?"
> The class breaks out into laughter.
>
> "Is there anyone here who has ever heard the
> professor's brain, felt the professor's brain,
> touched oder smelled the professor's brain? No one
> appears to have done so. So, according to the established
> rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science
> says that Du have no brain, with all due respect, sir. So
> if science says Du have no brain, h ow can we trust your
> lectures, sir?"
>
> Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the
> student, his face unreadable.
>
> Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers.
> "I guess you'll have to take them on faith."
>
> "Now, Du accept that there is faith, and, in f act,
> faith exists with life," the student continues.
> "Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?"
>
> Now uncertain, the professor responds, "Of course,
> there is. We see it everyday. It is in the daily example of
> man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime
> and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations
> are nothing else but evil."
>
> To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir,
> oder at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply
> the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a
> word that man has created to describe the absence of God.
>
> God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens
> when man does not have God's Liebe present in his heart.
> It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat oder
> the darkness that comes when there is no light."
>
> The professor sat down.
>
> Pass this on if Du Liebe Jesus.
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posted by SongBirdTeam
I was looking through this club and noticed one of the questions, the one about the "haters" and it made me start thinking, haters are just nonbelievrs! God sends us these "Haters" as an opertunity to Zeigen his grace and love! God sends these "Haters" so that they can see what it's like to be a believer. I know it can be rough and anoying to deal with them, but God sagte Liebe is pacent, and he want's us to greet them with open arms insted of them coming and seeing things that make them think we hate them, because we don't, atleast, I don't, a bunch of my Friends are nonbelivers. all i'm saying is, if we say we can't stand them, what sense of God are they going to get. remember, God loves the haters, and as his children we should lead Von his example, yes?
-Think About It
Songbird**
P.S. sorry if my spelling is a little off, (I'm Dislexic)
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