I Would say none because in the chapter of toby and kabuto together Tobi asks what would happen if he didn't accept, to which Kabuto responds Von summoning a sixth coffin containing Madara Uchiha. Horrified that Kabuto is aware that Madara is actually dead, Tobi agrees to an alliance, though he forces Kabuto to accept a few conditions. First being that Sasuke will not be turned over until after the war. And secondly, Kabuto will be watched at all times while at the hideout. Though Kabuto's summons were returned, Tobi was still uneasy about the sixth casket, while leading Kabuto into his hideout so he can assess his battle strength and reformulate his war plans.so tobi is not madara uchiha
Tobi's identity has already been revealed in the manga, so it is a spoiler. I normally don't spoil stories for people, but since Du asked for it with 'or fact'... Tobi is Madara Uchiha. I'll leave the rest of the story unspoiled for Du Von only giving Madara's name, though I'm sure someone else will post a huge spoiler on Madara's background and the story line, and completely ruin it for you.
In the Manga and anime, I think it's the same, Tobi is definetly Madara (manga page:?; Anime ep.: season 6 - ep. 125). As for the whole "Madara could be using Obito's body" reply, that could be true but there is still no proof of that yet (or maybe there is but I just don't know about it :D).
It is impossible for Tobi to be Obito because there are many factors that would stop that from happening the first and for most is Obito's entire right side of his body was CRUSHED and he DIED right then and there so seeing the Tobi uses his right eye that isn't true Sekunde Obito loved his village so it's not possible for him to betray the Hidden Leaf so in conclusion OBITO IS NOT TOBI
At first, I put my hopes up on it being Obito, because Kakashi wouldn't have a squadmate dead, but when I found out it was Madara, I was super shocked. He hides his hidden self really well, with the crazy personality that Tobi has. Lol
its madara! everyone knows that that stone that u saw when suske and Naruto fighted he was the stone that was on the right i know that because im a Fan of Naruto shippden and Naruto and i have the book that shows them fighting so its madara uchiha and no obito uchiha madara makes up tobi to ....... wait u need to find out all right if u want to watch Naruto shippden go on www.holo.com
ok everyone bare with me here. Tobi is Obito/Madara. Fact: #1. Madara is SUPER OLD LOL if he were alive im sure he would be dead Von now. Of course its Naruto so the laws of reality do not apply so there could be some survial angle. #2. Tobi is in fact some form of Obito. In Manga 509 it is revealed that Tobi/Madara/Obito is attempting to get his eye.... Obito gave one of his eyes to Kagashi(sure is spelled it wrong but Du know what i mean) #3. in this same Manga M/O/Tobi states "Don't Underestimate the eye powers of an Uchiha Child" why is this a fact Du may ask? well Madara was a founder of Uchiha so there for he can not be a child of the Uchiha because he was the first to establish the clan. #4. this my not really be a good on but i have seen the Fotos of madara with a cracked mask and he has the same hair, bandages and eye that Obito had. #5 notice Marada has his left eye covered. while Kakashi has his left covered. Coincedence?! HELL NO!!! LOL Finally lets be honest none of us really know we can only come up this theories and that my fellow Anime/Manga Fans is the best part. Enjoy :)
orochimaru had a jutsu that helped him to live young forever the one he took possession of someones body but only lasted 3 years i dont recal where he got that jutsu but it could had been madara's all along and orochimaru wanted sasuke sharingan so bad because he would never need to trade bodies again
hey...we dont know if obito is still alive! obito died in the gras, grass village and then so zetsu was walking around and will find him...then obito will be tobi...the two names obito and tobi are similar! and the color of the hair and the eyes they have! bu still we cannot say he is obito! we all know that tobi sagte that he is madara...but who knows maybe he is fake!!! my answer is that tobi is not madara and not even obito...i saw the new picture of tobi's mask and it was Wird angezeigt the both eyes....so he is not obito...and we cannot say that he is madara becuz madara died before as so long!!! no one can be alive since 200 years!! haha but this hapens in the animes! but realy realy am thinking that tobi is a fake person...this is my answer....and sorry of this bad english i huv!!!
In I like the idea that madara stahl, stola obitos body and I kinda don't like to shatter anybodys theory but there's a big whole in the idea that madara stahl, stola obitos body in one of the later chapters there's a flashback Wird angezeigt Naruto as a baby his dad was still hokage which means Kakashi and his squad were likely children still at the time. Anyway at this time madara attacked the village again in an attempt to steal baby naruto(u guys all know why) and of course naruto's dad being hokage and all he kicked madara's arsch with a good ol' resengan to the back. Ok so back to the point, if madara was super old when the first hokage defeated him and he did do a replacement with obito's corpse then wouldn't yodaime be fighting oil obito instead of big bad madara? Once again I'm not trying to destroy amyones theories so if u guys find a clever loopwhole to this predicament I would luv to hear it because in the retarded world of Naruto anything is possible
Guys,let me tell u the real truth...Tobi is not Ucihaha Madara!We all saw Obito dying under the rocks,but no! Zetsu saved him and now he is controlling hes body known as "Tobi" The battle vs Danzo tobi Lost hes hand and white fluid popped,witch was from white zetsu. Uchiha Madara have died before and he was in the coffin that Kabutomaru showed to Tobi and he got frightent. Thats the truth,Fans!
there are several indicators that madara/tobi oder whatever Du want to call him is really obito. He has the ability to control time and Weltraum with sharingan as Kakashi does with his mangekyo, and Kakashi has obito's left eye implanted. also whenever it shows madara, it only shows his right eye indicating he only has one eye. But consider how the character tobi/madara acts. In the latest episodes and in the manga, it shows that madara has evil intents and is just an evil guy to the core. if obito did somehow survive and is now going under the name of madara, why would he have any evil intents to destroy Konaha and take over the world?
Well in the manga,nt sure the exact chp., kabuto came 2 tobi 2 help with his plot..and tobi tried 2 get over on kabuto. So kabuto used his kuchiyosei edo tensei no jutsu and brought a casket up and revealed it 2 tovbi...at 1st the person wasnt revealed but the person did put fear n tobi... Then l8r to the current chp. 559 kabuto began losing the battle so he useed 1 of the ppl he brought bak 2 summon a new person...which turned out 2 b madara...so n my opinion i believe madara is dead and tobi has 2 b either obito, sm1 posing as obito...or the sage of the 6 paths still living, oder it could b his younger brother?
actually Du are all wrong, SPOILER ALERT. in the manga. there is a war happening as all of Du kno, BUT when gaarra finished killing his father (impure world somthing :P) the 2nd mizukage whitch got brougt back to life was walking behind someone. and that was uchiha madara. HE was also brout back to life. that means tobi is not madara. if u want i can give the link and Zeigen u all to the manga. sorry to be a dick
ha it has a Mehr probability of being obito than it does madara actually let me get one thing straight IT IS NOT MADARA if Du do not like spoilers do not read on.kabutos secret weapon that he was talking about in the chapter reinforments arrive Zeigen that the secret weapon is madara there fore he is dead which leads to this Frage who is tobi no body knows he is reffered to as "him" but theres one thing i do know it is that the rinnegan is the evolution of the sharingan and madara has a susanoo,o .the possibilities iv picked out are ,obito ,hashirama oder izuna those are my guesses but it could be none of them if youd like an explanation as to why i think these reasons are ask on my Wand and ill explain why those are my possibilities
1. Tobi is missing his left (or right i dont fuckin no) eye sharingan, as we no obito and Kakashi were once in a team, before the 'death' of otobi. Kakashi takes obitos right (or left) sharingan to symbolize otobi living on through him.
2. in Manga 559 we see that the real madara uchiha has been resurrected Von kabuto Von his jutsu. this is why tobi agrees to side with kabuto and give him sasuke uchiha.
3. tobi has only just completed his rinnengan recently, though we learn madara unlocked it before his death, years before tobi.
My big opinion i came with after lots of research is that it obviously cant be madara, and its also pretty unlikely from research to be Obito! So I have one idea that meets all criteria of being tobi! Du want to know who im talking bout than read my article! On this link: link
He is neither in the Manga he says and I quote(I think)" I am neither Du say then just call me Von my old name, Tobi, it truly does not matter nor do I care who I am" That is essentially what he said. SPOILER!!
He changes masks... His other eye is a rinnegan like pain. It sure seems that the rinnegan isnt as rare cuz like 15 oder so people have it currently as of chap 568.
Short and simple.Tobi and Madara are the same person.proof is in episode 125 of Naruto Shippuden.Obito has nothing to do with it and hate to break it to Du HE IS DEAD!!!Obito died at age 13 and in his last moments he was paralyzed so he wouldn't be able to do a reanimation jutsu.He was also buried and has a grave stone marking.Proof on episode 120 of Naruto Shippuden.
Okay there has been many theories to this but here is mine:
How did Tobi know about the stone tablet in the Uchiha Hideout? Only full blood Uchihas can enter, if its not Madara... then who exactly is it?
Heres my Theory: Tobi appears at Sasukes side when he is in trouble, Zetsu isnt always around so Tobi isnt always informed yet he shows up to save Sasuke all the time. What I have been thinking is it is Sasuke... from the future. As "Tobi" says, once Du reach levels of Sharingan Mehr abilities open up, he has Weltraum time ninjutsu and has travelled in time before, exactly why it could be sasuke from a different timeline... if Du say: " But oh, he has Madaras eyes " well, as tobi has been doing stealing the victims eyes, he could of gone back and got Madara's? Everything works out with this theory
I believe that Tobi is really Obito Uchiha because when Du look at tobi and kakashi's eye powes they really function the same the only difference is that tobi uses it for a defence and kakkashi uses it for an attack.
kakashi's and tobi's sharingan power is the same. both manipulate Weltraum and dimension.
sooo... the FACT here is... kakashi's sharingan came from obito. then the only logic in telling the sharingan power of Kakashi and tobi to be the same is that both eyes came from obito.
BUT! that's only the logic. still.. Manga is manga.. anything can happen. like... sasuke and itachi has the same power. madara too can do susano, amaterasu, and tsukuyomi. meaning.. obito can still have other uchiha that has the same power as his. BUT the thing is.. the only introduced uchiha that has the power of Weltraum and dimension as its mangekyou is obito though he wasn't the one that awakened it.
another thing is.. though this is not related to the Frage it's just that i want to tell this... how Kakashi got his mangekyou? it's still a mystery but don't Du think that the girl's death in minato's team where Kakashi and obito were in is much Mehr mysterious? obito and rin were kakashi's closest friends. so we could think that in obtaining kakashi's mangekyou it could be safe, sicher to say that he killed rin.
for me, I think that, Tobi wasn't Uchiha Madara, but Uchiha Obito. And there was three reason that I find out so far, for now... 1st- His name was Tobi, and if try to spell Obito name backward, and take the 'o' out, there's only left, "bito"=Tobi 2nd-Tobi sharingan eyes, entire time he's appear he always Zeigen his right eyes, not left. And plus, when Kakashi meet him, when Kakashi fight with Sasuke to help Sakura, and then Naruto came, he sagte to Kakashi-"Don't bother, Kakashi. That technique won't effect on me." He probably say that because, he knew his own eyes technique not going to work on himself. 3rd-When he meet Naruto in the battle field, there was a reveal that he, Tobi was not Uchiha Madara, then when Naruto ask him who the hell is he really was, he sagte that he was no one, and he didn't want to be anyone any more.. So it's pretty obvious that he was Obito, consider the fact that the entire Konoha village thought that Obito was dead, and that make him have no place among the Konoha village oder anyone any more. So for that, it's make him no longer have identity.
That was my answer so far. But I don't know if there was different opinion in this matter. So then later!!
Tobi cannot be Madara because (spoiler alert) when sasuke kills orochimaru kabuto inserts his dna into him. So now that he has all his jutsus he starts the Weiter great ninja war and he uses orochimarus jutsu that can revive the dead. During the war one of the past tschukage oder something like that spelling... Who they think they captured, used the jutsu, then appeared in front of everyone with a revived Madara while is somewhere with kabuto... So I think tobi is obito :)
For one its impossible for Tobi to be Obito even though the names do have similar likenesses, but in a Manga chapter and a Kürzlich episode Du will see *Spoiler* Tobi fighting the paper girl from the akatuski and is shown breaking off his mask to reveal a sharingan in his left eye even though that would be the eye he gave kakashi. Im personally leaning Mehr towards him being either madara oder madaras brother
Obito- Obito's death took place 13 years before the main story. Tobi attacking Konoha took place 12 years before the main story. I do not Obito would attack Konoha 1 Jahr after supposed/actual death. People say Obito can't be Tobi because he gave his Sharingan to Kakashi; It's just as plausible for him to have a transplanted sharingan, JUST LIKE KAKASHI.
Madara: He is not Madara... already confirmed in one of the latest Manga chapter. [SPOILERS] Madara Uchiha was confirmed to be in the sixth coffin, which was resurrected Von Kabuto Yukashi.
With the information the Manga has it is unclear who Tobi is.
yes obito uchiha is tobi causelook at there haie and tobi is one eyed like obito cause obito gave his other sharingan eye thats why Kakashi has sharingan and Kakashi tookoff his eye to they did not feel any pain cause one ofthere temates is a healer
Well call me crazy but what if hes nether what if he has his own story and is someone no one really knows
maby someone itachi thought he killed but somehow tobi escaped the fate of the uchiha this would explain his hate tward the hidden leaf because he knew that the hidden leaf had ordered itachi to kill the uchiha
But this is just my idea I have up in my head and even though I like this idea (probably because I would be so sad if tobi is obito because it would just kill Kakashi so much) I still think tobi might be obito
Okay, listen guys, the best and most logical answer is that Tobi is Obito. Think about it, Obito Lost his left eye to Kakashi, they only ever Zeigen Tobi's right eye. Yes, later in the series they Zeigen him fighting Konan, and yes, he has two, but it's Mehr likely than anything that he stahl, stola it from one of the other people with the sharingan, also, he apperently has the ability to clone eyes oder some such, because all the old kage's and people that he had Kabuto reanimate have a rinnegan and sharingan eye, and obviously there arent that many rinnegan users lying around to steal it from, and there arent many sharingan users left. Another thing Du can point out are the name resemblences, but really even i dont think that means anything important. Also, tobi and obito have similar personalities, that is until tobi starts saying he's madara and goes nuts,but other than that they are pretty similar. Also, kakashi, who has one of obitos eyes, has similar powers to tobis eye, they can both do weird tricks with Weltraum and time, and when tobi shows Kakashi his sharingan eye, Kakashi flips out. Why would he flip out unless he showed Kakashi that his mangekyo sharingan looks exactly like his own? And the reason that masashi kishimoto is saying that its madara, is cuz it is probably going to be the final plot twist, unless Naruto and sasuke team up oder something which is possible but unlikely. And if it was madara, why wouldnt they Zeigen his mangekyo sharingan? Hunh? Its not like he hasnt decided what its going to look like yet, masashi kishimoto already has that Design and in a book, 42 oder 43 i think, but tobi is never seen with it!!! The timeline also makes sense, im not saying it makes Mehr sense than it being madara does, but here, madara would be extremely old, but he is MADARA UCHIHA, so its not impossible for it to be him fighting lord fourth, but tobi got crushed before minato even became hokage, which is proven because danzo's squad was trained Von the Sekunde hokage, and they called him lord hokage still, and kakashi, rin, and obito all call him sensei oder master, and minato was hokage for a few years before he fought nine tails, dont Du think? So that gives Obito at least 2 oder 3 years to train and get stronger, which shouldnt be that big a stretch, because thats all Naruto and sasuke had and look how much stronger they got, and obito could have even had Mehr time than that. And when Kabuto used the edo-tensei to Zeigen tobi that he had almost all the past Akatsuki members bodies for reanimation, he summoned another body, now whos was that that it mad tobi so mad about??? Most likely, the real madara, since tobi's trying to be a poser madara. And alot of people are saying that obito's dead, that is not entirely true. We know he got crushed Von a big rock on the right side of his body-guess who has weird wrinkles and cuts on the right side of their body too, TOBI- but even though he got crushed Von a rock, it that really gunna stop him, oder anyone for that matte
as my fellow Manga reader will agree Madara is later ressurected with the Edo Tensi jutsu (he fights all 5 kages together which is really epic). His true identity is unknown. He refers to himself as "Nobody".
Well Tobie told Sasuke that he is Madara Uchiha. This might contain some major spoilers so if Du don't want to know to read any farther...
He told Sasuke that he is Madara and it true since Madara Uchiha is immortal. If Du remember when Madara looked at Sasuke he was set in feuer with amaterasu.
Itachi knew that Madara would go to Sasuke to tell him the real reason Itachi killed the Uchiha clan and Itachi wanted Sasuke to hate him forever.
But Madara lived after amaterasu had hit him. Madara Uchiha was also the one to make the nine tailed fuchs go to destroy konoha and that was around the time Naruto was born and now Madara shows himself after so many years which prooves that he must be immortal...
i think TOBI is OBITO!! he gave his left eye to kakashi. and Du all know tobi use his right sharingan to Bewegen to other dimension and teleport other place.. if Du watch Naruto shippuden episode when madara still alive fighting with kakashiand naruto, Kakashi use his sharingan to transfer madara left to other place. this meant that Kakashi has same eye like tobi.. conclusion, tobi IS obito..
yes he is based on the Manga today only obito would talk to Kakashi in the manners of an old friend and here is the prove and this prove is the only prove needed to determine who madara oder tobi is none other then your truly obito...
Tobi is neither Madara,which was already dead and summoned Von Kabuto,nor Obito,for the reason why do he wants to destroy eveyone he loves most,peace.Maybe Tobi is Mehr sinister,so don't worry we have maybe Mehr than 5 chapters away to revealing who Tobi really is cause Might Guy cracked a part of his mask.
I don't think it's either. Most likely it's Madara's brother actually. I mean it can't be Madara since he was reincarnated in the war Von Kabuto, and it couldn't be Obito because he died at the age of 13 and the entire right side of his body was crushed Von the rock that killed him. Paralyzing him in his final moments and that means even if he was alive which he most likely isn't his right eye would also be gone oder damaged and he'd have mobility problems. and I'e seen people claim it was the sage of 6 paths, also unlikely. Tobi supported evil things where as the sage traveled all over spreading the message of peace and trying to end wars, where as tobi tries to create them to gain ultimate power of the sharingan. So Von default the most likely identity of tobi is Madara's little brother.
Ok, let me tell u guys something. I've been Lesen the Manga n I just found out that Tobi is obito uchiha. Let me explain. #1 Madara was resurrected Von kabuto's Edo tensei. When fighting the five kages he explain the whole battle against the first hokage. He Lost the battle but didn't die. Read the Manga n y'all see what I'm talking about. #2 It did look that obito died but it never showed him really dead. Maybe he's body was found half dead n someone help him out n heal him. My theory, madara's brother raised him n showed him the history of the uchiha clan.with the help of zetzu's power he got his body fixed. #3 Kakashi got his left sharingan from obito which power he discover himself, the mangekyo sharingan. He calls it Kamui. Tobi has a similar power. It has been told in the manga. #4 I just found that tobi is obito. It's in the latest chapter.
Obito is Tobi. Two reasons, one: Madara is alive, well dead but living due to the edo tensai. And two: Kakashi and the "masked" man has the same Weltraum traveling jutsu, and in one picture from the latest Manga they both have the same sharingan eye shape. Kakashi got his eye from obito therefore obito is Tobi and vice versa.
Ok guys, those of u who sagte tobi is madara, u r WRONG. he is obito. if u people bother to read Manga instead of being lazy and only watch the episodes, u would know that tobi is Uchiha Obito. its in chapter 599. god. u guys really need to read this its much better than the anime. Anyway, tobi's hair is just like obito, his right eye contains the sharingan and kakashi's left contains the same sharingan. i mean tobi could be madara using tobi's body for all we know. u just have to wait and see there is no other way. and as u can see from the picture that the guy before me posted, TOBI IS OBITO. I can't wait for kakashi's reactions!!! DRAMA BOMB!!! lol
i think both of them read Manga chapter 600 there is both obito and madara when tobi mask cracked it was obito but who fought the fourth hokage? Obito is still a small kid how could he fight the fourth hokage? so i think madara is the one who fought the fourth hokage and gave the mask to obito when he grows up
well bros and sis's. after doing some research on the manga, and seeing chapter 599 and 600, also studying tobi,
i came up with a conclusion that tobi is obito and zetsu!, obito's body is made up of zetsu's and because of the zetsu inside of him, zetsu is playing a role in obito's character,
making him evil and corrupted, also zetsu would be able to change obito's body appearance, being basically a vessel for obito, he could change himself to look similar to madara.
that would explain how kisame knew the short hair tobi as the long haired one he met in the past, and both long haired and short haired tobi having the ''same voice'' that explains tobi being grown up and not some little boy, i believe that obito being controlled Von zetsu was the one who attacked konoha 16 years Vor their both had the same voice, the same Weltraum time migration, as well as being the tobi who killed the uchiha clan with itachi.
it would not make sense if obito was told these stories, obito acts like if he lived in these eras, how would obito know so much about madara if madara in fact created zetsu! and zetsu being apart of obito, obito gained his knowledge about madara, being able to know everything about madara, hashirama and possibly the sage of six paths and the juubi,
hope i answered your Frage and shown Du the proofs ^-^
Ok so im going over this so many times i still cant 100 percent say who it is since i havnt finished the series in the Manga oder the anime. but somethings are bothering me. Tobi being madara, tobi being obito oder is both. from what i can tell atm i believe he is madara. thats how he revealed himself as of right now. im sticking to this because madara was the founder of the leaf. at that time he was already well aged and only getting older this was during the reign of the first hokage. obito appears later on with minato who ends up being the the fourth hokage. so what im getting at is how can tobi be obito if his story is being madara. my biggest problem of obito being madara is in the wiki (pss geyest way to get info) it CLAIMS that obito ends up going Von the alias of madara. and yet the time for both of their lifes dont match up. mayb im missing something, oder mayb hes just lieing all together. oder mayb i just need to keep watching on. but this is just my take on the situation at the moment.
TOBI IS MADARA! Madara is just pretending to be "Tobi" and the other Akatsuki members didn't know until Kisame and Zetsu were the last ones alive!(besides madara and well u get my point!) He confesed to Kisame that he is madara and he uses Zetsu in the 4th great ninja war!
I would like to add a theory of my own. I don't have much evidence supporting this theory but it just seems to fit. Maybe Tobi is Obito and Obito is nothing but a puppet of Rikodu Senin. Maybe the sage of six paths hasn't revealed himself yet and is letting Obito handle things until it's necessary to Zeigen himself. The sage of six paths always wanted peace and started the ninja world. The ninja world caused a lot of hate and war and things got even worse. So the sage of six paths seeing that he had created all this hate and world realizes the there is no way to obtain true peace. He decides since I created the ninja world I should be the one to end it. I've bred so much hate and war and it's time to finally end it all. Therefore he starts the moon project to enslave the people into a genjutsu and force peace upon them. Because since there is no such thing as true peace then the Weiter best thing is artificial peace. Some people may not think it's possible because he was just too good a person but think of this: He created the ninja world in the hope it would bring peace, but instead it brought Mehr hate and Mehr wars. It did the complete opposite, which to him meant there really was no hope of true peace. Once again just a theory with little evidence but it's not Madara Uchiha seeing as Kabuto has his body and uses it in his reanimation jutsu and it can't be Obito alone because when the Kyuubi attacked Konoha Kakashi was still just a kid meaning that if Obito survived the boulders then he was still a kid. The person who summoned the nine tailed fuchs on the other hand was a man and a very powerful one. So he attacked the hidden leaf village and got away and is now manipulating Obito while he lays back.
I am tobi and my proofs are 1, i'm not sure 'bout this but in the Naruto wiki when i type in Uchiha Obito it brings tobi's face so. 2, There is no footage in THE WORLD Wird angezeigt that obito is dead just crushed in his right side 3, when tobi goes to fight konan *to get nagato's rinnegan and put it in his left eye socket* she cuts of his arm and his mask his face is Shown and he's a copy of Obito's father's face so like father like son and it can't be his father cuz he's 100% dead and he would be too old. 4, for those who say obito is just a child now if he is alive *which i think cuz he's tobi* he would be just the same age as Kakashi and tobi is almost the same age as kakashi. 5, this is stupid but both obito and tobi wear orange. 6, this is kinda silly to but Obito if Du remove the first O and but the (to) in the first it spells out Tobi 7,Tobi when 1st came out in the Manga he didn't talk to anyone!!! the first character he talked to was Kakashi and i quote *almost the same quote if not Von words then Von meaning* "those who betray the law(abandon their missions) are trash and those hwo turn their backs on their Friends are worse than trash and then i'd rather be a trash" that's what kakashi's father EXCATLY did that's why Kakashi covers his face. 8, again to those who say prove us obito is still alive there are a lot of people who say this revived that and that revived that but the most 2 common ones are Madara Uchiha used Hashirama's cells and those who say oruchimaru did using hashirama's cells BUT the most common one is Madara because he also told Obito to repay me Du must serve me obito refused saying i wanna go back to my Friends and Kakashi (since they're Friends now) he didn't say no. he (with a grin said) go and you'll come back then when he was going he saw Kakashi killing Rin. MOST People say madara because he was grinning when he sagte you'll come back used a really strong Genjutsu so curse his eyes to make him see that Kakashi killed her but he really didn't and others say madara let him go because he knows what will happen and it's not an illusion so Obito went back and resumed his service. Hope this helped.
Guys..... It's obito uchiha. It is in the Manga and it shows how he survived. If u don't believe me.... Read the Naruto Manga Titel obito and madara. It shows that madara was reanimated and madara helped obito live Von using a zetsu for the other half body. And obito's technique uses the kamui.
All your people that are saying tobi is madara are retardid and ignorant tobi is actually obito go on narutowiki and Du will ready that madara rescued obito from under the bolder and madara taught obito several jutsu before he died
If Du have seen Tobi's Mangekyou Du would seen that Tob's Mangekyou sharingan is the sam sharingan that Kakashi has and Kakashi got his sharingan from obito so the only possible person it could be is obito.
The Autor of Naruto magna has confirmed that tobi is just pretending to be madara but he is really is obito and was following his grandfather's goal. I am not saying who is his grandfather because it will spoil the surprise, i know this because i read latest magna published in japan.
Obito Uchiha is indeed Tobi. Tobi is telling everyone that he is Madara, that is not true because Madara died years back. Tobi is still determined to follow Madara's plans though. Tobi will not be resurrecting Madara because he simply does not care for the old bag of dust.
I was wondering that too i just watched the episode where tobi is talking to pain and koanen and that confused me becuse he sagte he was madara bot ive had soooooooooooo many spoilers from Friends that i knew he was obito not madara